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    Best practices for uploading to c4r

    what are the best practices for uploading models to C4R?

    if you have an existing project with arch and structural linked (a mep job) do you have to upload the links separate also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_h View Post
    what are the best practices for uploading models to C4R?
    If the project is already in progress (a model already exists) I archive it, open detached with audit and then connect it to C4R.

    Quote Originally Posted by nick_h View Post
    if you have an existing project with arch and structural linked (a mep job) do you have to upload the links separate also?
    It would depend why you are using C4R, and how those models need to connect. If other disciplines/sites need the information in the models, then yes, they should be in C4R and their cloud version linked into the cloud model. If there is a link that only one discipline/site needs to use than it may not be needed. For example, I have a project where the 4th project in the series is C4R. It is separate from the earlier 3 projects, and those projects Revit files aren't on C4R because the architectural discipline is the only one that needs to have them linked, for a location plan on the cover sheet
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmk View Post
    If the project is already in progress (a model already exists) I archive it, open detached with audit and then connect it to C4R.


    It would depend why you are using C4R, and how those models need to connect. If other disciplines/sites need the information in the models, then yes, they should be in C4R and their cloud version linked into the cloud model. If there is a link that only one discipline/site needs to use than it may not be needed. For example, I have a project where the 4th project in the series is C4R. It is separate from the earlier 3 projects, and those projects Revit files aren't on C4R because the architectural discipline is the only one that needs to have them linked, for a location plan on the cover sheet
    So if my colleagues in another office need to work on the model I will need to put the links in c4r attach them through the project in c4r?

    Also do you ever have problems uploading models due to size?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_h View Post
    So if my colleagues in another office need to work on the model I will need to put the links in c4r attach them through the project in c4r?

    Also do you ever have problems uploading models due to size?


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    We are working on a project were our model is now 500+MB and it was uploaded (initiated) to C4R early on. We also have 5 linked files totaling over 3GB. These 5 linked files get updated weekly so I initiate each of them once a week. No problems whatsoever as long as the BIM360 service isn't degraded or down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    We are working on a project were our model is now 500+MB and it was uploaded (initiated) to C4R early on. We also have 5 linked files totaling over 3GB. These 5 linked files get updated weekly so I initiate each of them once a week. No problems whatsoever as long as the BIM360 service isn't degraded or down.
    I want to be able to keep the work in progress model private on C4r and keep it between our office and only have a published model for others to view and download is this possible?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_h View Post
    I want to be able to keep the work in progress model private on C4r and keep it between our office and only have a published model for others to view and download is this possible?


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    while we don't do this, we are just detailers collaborating on the project who are involved in C4R, I believe that it is possible through whatever are called "permissions" in C4R. You can invite someone who does not have C4R and they can view whatever you make available to them. You can invite others in your organization that have a C4R license but then you can give them "permissions" to allow them to do or not do certain things. I'm just shutting everything down now but tomorrow if you haven't gotten any further definitive feedback on this I'd be happy to post some screen shots of the management area of C4R so you can see what's possible. You could also do a Google search for "manage C4R hub" and I bet you'd get some goodie info

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    There isn't a good way to keep a private & a public model separate. Once someone has access to the project there isn't much restriction. You want to publish regularly, since that is your backup, and what you see on C4R for coordination. We've downloaded the model and reuploaded it into a separate "client" project. You might be able to do the same and just share a link, but I haven't tried that, and it still is an extra step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmk View Post
    There isn't a good way to keep a private & a public model separate. Once someone has access to the project there isn't much restriction. You want to publish regularly, since that is your backup, and what you see on C4R for coordination. We've downloaded the model and reuploaded it into a separate "client" project. You might be able to do the same and just share a link, but I haven't tried that, and it still is an extra step.
    I thought so. I might make a separate working team folder just for our working models.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_h View Post
    I thought so. I might make a separate working team folder just for our working models.

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    so, I'm confused about what you are trying to do. If you have 4 team members that have a C4R license they, after being invited to the project, will be able to access the initiated models. There are two levels of access for the C4R team, Project Admin and Editor. Both have full access to the working model. For outsiders or even insiders without C4R you can still invite them to the project and you can (in theory) make them either Editors or Viewers (I'm unclear how a non C4R person can be an Editor as we have never done this but it is an option in the Team webpage). We make all non collaborators Viewers so view files, make comments, chat with the group, and access project discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    so, I'm confused about what you are trying to do. If you have 4 team members that have a C4R license they, after being invited to the project, will be able to access the initiated models. There are two levels of access for the C4R team, Project Admin and Editor. Both have full access to the working model. For outsiders or even insiders without C4R you can still invite them to the project and you can (in theory) make them either Editors or Viewers (I'm unclear how a non C4R person can be an Editor as we have never done this but it is an option in the Team webpage). We make all non collaborators Viewers so view files, make comments, chat with the group, and access project discussions.
    I also want go put in the project folder. Sheet layouts PDF or dwgs for the client/s for them to download print. But I give them access to download does not mean they can also down the working model ?


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