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    They work fine on shape edited floors. Death to the ramp tool.

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    The ramp feature has been dead for a long time. No enhancements at all in all these years. I wonder why they don't remove it from the system if they are not going to update the feature. Ramps don't allow layers of materials, don't display a pattern in floor plan views, ramps don't display an annotation slope without strange workarounds, ramps don't have a room boundary property, ramps don't join to anything, ramps cannot be used to attach walls to, ...and other issues that I don't remember now. "Ramps" is a forgotten department at the factory. These are the things that make us be skeptical when they say that they do listen to customers. Right, Scott?

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    6 years later... no resolve

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    6 years later, who still uses the ramp tool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    6 years later, who still uses the ramp tool?
    Well, when you are trying to do 6 different design options of winding speed ramps including double helices in a very large mixed use high-rise with specific design criteria of 16% max slope, I feel like using floors with meticulously "modifying sub-elements" doesn't cut it. Maybe Autodesk Civil 3D has better tools for these studies, but I don't have it.

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    If Sub-elements "doesnt cut it," hopefully working without spot elevations (or having to place them in a sneaky fashion) does... Id be doing it with Floors, for sure. But to each their own.

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    Does 2017 version resolve this issue?

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    Also Ramp arrows dont work: even when turned on in visibility graphics: no arrows to be seen. I think I filed that bug report about 10 years ago as well

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    Didn't work for me

    Alfredo, I drawn the Model line onto a conduit in my model, and aligned locked to it using a reference plane. When I try to added the slope spot on my plan I cannot chose the graphic representation to be triangle instead of arrow. I was able to tag the model line with the correct slope, but the option of it showing the triangle graphic representation was not available.




    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    For some reason that we don't know yet , the Spot Slope annotation tool does not work on ramps in plan views. It works on elevation, sections, and 3d views, though; however, it's on the plans where I need it most. Until this is fixed in the future, here's a solution that you might find useful:

    From a 3d view, create a model line with thin line style, aligned and locked to one of the slanted edges of the ramp. (That line is represented in heavy red in the image, for clarity). Then go to the plan view, and try again the Spot Slope annotation tool on the ramp, but this time use the tab key to find the model line. Now you have the slope of the ramp.

    If the slope of the ramp changes, the annotation will update, since the line is locked to the slope of the ramp. The ramp can be edited, shortened, lengthened, and moved, without affecting the slope annotation at all. Only issue I found is that when the ramp is rotated, the constraint is lost, but then it is very easy to align and lock the line to the ramp again, and the Slope annotation goes back in place again, updated.

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