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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.macko View Post
    I've looked into using curtain panels for precast and tilt-up walls, but the main issue I had is that it's much harder to drop doors and windows in
    why?? I've done complete precast buildings with Revit curtain wall and curtain systems. Ups, downs, arounds, overs and unders, joints as mullions, doors and windows as curtain wall doors and curtain wall as windows just pop right in where you need them. Grid, grid, grid, select grid, delete where you don't want a joint, replace the resultant panel with a door frame, replace the resultant curtain panel with a door or window. Bingading bing bing done...OK, maybe that's stretching it a bit but for sure, complete precast structures can be done relatively quickly and accurately with Revit curtain wall. Oh, and I HATE reveals! I'm sure that they have their place but they remind my of a b*tchy ex girlfriend...they never want to do what I want ;-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    why?? I've done complete precast buildings with Revit curtain wall and curtain systems. Ups, downs, arounds, overs and unders, joints as mullions, doors and windows as curtain wall doors and curtain wall as windows just pop right in where you need them. Grid, grid, grid, select grid, delete where you don't want a joint, replace the resultant panel with a door frame, replace the resultant curtain panel with a door or window. Bingading bing bing done...OK, maybe that's stretching it a bit but for sure, complete precast structures can be done relatively quickly and accurately with Revit curtain wall. Oh, and I HATE reveals! I'm sure that they have their place but they remind my of a b*tchy ex girlfriend...they never want to do what I want ;-P
    CAN be done, yes. It's NOT as fast as using regular walls, and regular doors. Coming from someone who HAS done it BOTH ways.

    Dude, I get it: you use the CW tool for everything, day in and day out. That means it IS a viable option. It DOESNT mean it's the only one. And it doesn't mean it's the BEST one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    Oh, and I HATE reveals!
    I've not bothered with one for years, are they respecting phase and VG yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    CAN be done, yes. It's NOT as fast as using regular walls, and regular doors. Coming from someone who HAS done it BOTH ways.

    Dude, I get it: you use the CW tool for everything, day in and day out. That means it IS a viable option. It DOESNT mean it's the only one. And it doesn't mean it's the BEST one.



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    Aaron, I in no way said in my post that “it’s the only way”. I was only responding to the comment that said that there are issues with placing doors and windows in Revit curtain walls. Everyone knows that I am a curtain wall fanboy. But I’m also smart enough to know that it is not all things to all people and that there are many viable ways to accomplish a task in Revit


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    The post you responded to said *its much harder* to place doors and windows in Revit CW than Revit Basic Walls, and thats 100% a true statement. It doesnt mean its "difficult" but it IS "more difficult" than using basic walls, and doors, and windows. Its not even in the same ballpark.

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    Any of you guys wish to update your opinions for 2019?

    I am about to start modelling a lot of insulated precast concrete panels. I like the idea of using curtain panels... but what about the newish precast add-on by Autodesk. i currently work on rvt 2020 so dont think this is available for me yet (only see 2019 version). I'm an architect so don't need to worry about reinforcement/shop drawing etc. Since these panels will host many items we want to document and control (doors, windows, fixtures, joint locations etc) I would just need to get the geometry right for our own purposes and schedule panel types for managing and coordination with the structural/electrical guys who work with other software (i think we get IFCs from them tbc.) ideally they would be using revit and we could then copy/monitor whatever they are creating but it aint an ideal world...yet. The overall design is still moving around a bit but is beginning to settle down as we begin detail documentaiton. I would like to be able to iteratively add detail over time when needed. Key is managability and flexibility. And we want to be talking "panel types" with all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmar View Post
    Any of you guys wish to update your opinions for 2019?
    Strong entrance game JJ!

    Welcome to the forum.

    To answer question? No.


    To pick out one point though:
    I'm an architect so don't need to worry about reinforcement/shop drawing etc
    You should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmar View Post
    Any of you guys wish to update your opinions for 2019?

    I am about to start modelling a lot of insulated precast concrete panels. I like the idea of using curtain panels... but what about the newish precast add-on by Autodesk. i currently work on rvt 2020 so dont think this is available for me yet (only see 2019 version). I'm an architect so don't need to worry about reinforcement/shop drawing etc. Since these panels will host many items we want to document and control (doors, windows, fixtures, joint locations etc) I would just need to get the geometry right for our own purposes and schedule panel types for managing and coordination with the structural/electrical guys who work with other software (i think we get IFCs from them tbc.) ideally they would be using revit and we could then copy/monitor whatever they are creating but it aint an ideal world...yet. The overall design is still moving around a bit but is beginning to settle down as we begin detail documentaiton. I would like to be able to iteratively add detail over time when needed. Key is managability and flexibility. And we want to be talking "panel types" with all involved.
    I wouldn't change anything I recommended above.

    I'm working on an ICF project (not precast) right now, but just wrapped up a precast model. No Curtain Panels used.

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    Sorry for late response... long summer break.

    Good to see you chaps sticking to your guns.. and I see there is no obvious 'one-size-fits-all' solution as with most things.

    I am leaning towards the CW tool and will see where that leads me. Or maybe a combination of CW is some locations and GM components for less regular items.... not sure how these will host doors/windows but I will give it a go.

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