Resultados 1 al 6 de 6

Tema: P-Trap Family Issues

  1. #1
    Member Avatar de CRapai
    Fecha de Ingreso
    30 abr, 15
    Ubicación
    Michigan
    Mensajes
    308
    Hora local
    08:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!

    P-Trap Family Issues

    I'm trying to make a new p-trap family that will allow us to use a generic annotation family to get the 2D plan symbol looking correctly. In order to do this I modeling the p-trap family in it's actual orientation, so I could insert the symbol in the reference level view. I'm suspecting that Revit doesn't like orienting the fitting this way. I'm getting weird behavior when I try to use the family. I have the part type set to elbow so I can have to replace normal 90s for easy modeling. When I try to change the family of the elbow to the p-trap I get this error:
    Pulsa en la imagen para verla en tamaño completo

Nombre: P-Trap FAmily Issues 01.PNG
Visitas: 26
Tamaño: 20.6 KB
ID: 36965

    If I try to place the fitting manually on the horizontal pipe and then connect the vertical pipe I get this issue:
    Pulsa en la imagen para verla en tamaño completo

Nombre: P-Trap FAmily Issues 02.PNG
Visitas: 22
Tamaño: 20.5 KB
ID: 36966

    If I try to place the fitting manually on the vertical pipe and then connect the horizontal pipe I get this issue:
    Pulsa en la imagen para verla en tamaño completo

Nombre: P-Trap FAmily Issues 03.PNG
Visitas: 21
Tamaño: 21.9 KB
ID: 36967

    I can place it on one of the pipes and draw a new pipe from the fitting out, but as soon as I try to connect the pipe from the p-trap to another pipe it breaks again.

    Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
    Archivos Adjuntados Archivos Adjuntados

  2. #2
    Member Avatar de CRapai
    Fecha de Ingreso
    30 abr, 15
    Ubicación
    Michigan
    Mensajes
    308
    Hora local
    08:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!
    So nothing yet. At my last job we had check boxes for 1/8" and 1/4" scale for the symbol because we were using symbolic lines in the family rather than a nested generic annotation. I would like to not do that but it's starting to look that way.

  3. #3
    Member Avatar de evan.dodds
    Fecha de Ingreso
    29 dic, 15
    Ubicación
    Calgary, Canada
    Mensajes
    219
    Hora local
    07:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!
    The annotation into detail component method does not work with the default orientation? One thing to be aware about is that, at least in the case of my p-trap, the symbol size changes slightly depending on the pipe size. As it isn't that significant I'm willing to live with it.

    Pulsa en la imagen para verla en tamaño completo

Nombre: p trap.PNG
Visitas: 11
Tamaño: 7.5 KB
ID: 37008
    Archivos Adjuntados Archivos Adjuntados

  4. #4
    Member Avatar de CRapai
    Fecha de Ingreso
    30 abr, 15
    Ubicación
    Michigan
    Mensajes
    308
    Hora local
    08:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!
    As far as trying to get the OOB family to work. I've tried placing the generic annotation in a detail family and placing that in the right, left and even the ref view. It does not show up. Placing an annotation directly in the families ref view only shows up when the fitting is on its side. You cannot place a generic annotation on any of the other views.

    The family you posted is using model lines to represent the trap which means the symbol will change sizes when you change the view scale. This is what I'm trying to avoid. I could put two sets of model lines, one for 1/8" and another for 1/4" and have yes/no parameters for visibility but I'd rather not. Based on what I've been testing and the lack of response here I guess I'm going to have to use model lines. I've used that before at my last place, but I was hoping there was some way to actually get Revit to act properly.
    Última edición por CRapai; 16/07/2019 a las 13:50

  5. #5
    Member Avatar de evan.dodds
    Fecha de Ingreso
    29 dic, 15
    Ubicación
    Calgary, Canada
    Mensajes
    219
    Hora local
    07:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Ah, you didn't state/I misread that you don't want the symbol to scale with the view. in that case, you could try seeing if unchecking the "use annotative scale" option would work. For some reason it makes my linework disappear, but if you could get it to work I imagine it would be more flexible/less cumbersome than having to toggle between 1/8" and 1/4".

  6. #6
    Member Avatar de CRapai
    Fecha de Ingreso
    30 abr, 15
    Ubicación
    Michigan
    Mensajes
    308
    Hora local
    08:09

    Not allowed! Not allowed!
    So what I ended up doing was this:


    I modeled the trap vertically, and checked the "Allow Slope Adjustment" which is why it wouldn't work with previously modeled pipe, even if they were flat. I then created the generic annotation family with the full circle, 3/4 circle, and the line that goes from that to the attached pipe. I created a parameter to control the length of the line so it connects to the pipe in 1/8" scale and 1/4" scale without causing it shoot past tight elbows. Inserted that into the Ref view of the trap and made a couple instance parameters to control the length of the symbol line based on the scale and pipe size.

    It's not the ideal family. I had to get rid of the idea about the part type being an elbow. I think revit doesn't like the orientation I used. It will keep the circle sizes the same however, which is what I was originally going for.

Temas Similares

  1. Functional P-Trap
    Por Fishtail8 en el foro MEP - General
    Respuestas: 23
    Último Mensaje: 24/10/2018, 14:49
  2. P-trap
    Por Jimbob en el foro MEP - Family Creation
    Respuestas: 3
    Último Mensaje: 29/12/2015, 15:38
  3. U-Trap for HVAC Equipments
    Por RAJESH87 en el foro MEP - General
    Respuestas: 0
    Último Mensaje: 13/11/2014, 09:13
  4. Offset Sink Trap
    Por cellophane en el foro MEP - General
    Respuestas: 3
    Último Mensaje: 17/05/2012, 18:45
  5. aligning bottle trap family
    Por Fekoloid en el foro MEP - Family Creation
    Respuestas: 3
    Último Mensaje: 20/10/2011, 18:17

Permisos de Publicación

  • No puedes crear nuevos temas
  • No puedes responder temas
  • No puedes subir archivos adjuntos
  • No puedes editar tus mensajes
  •