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    Angular Facade Geometry

    Hi All,

    Just a quick question regarding how you would create a facade that looks similar to the below image:


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    Can this be done with components? Or is it only sweeps/extrusions or 'wall by face'?

    I've experimented with walls and architectural columns, trying to get them to attach to angular slab edges or beams - but they don't work.

    The only way I can think of doing this is with in-place family tools, but I'd rather avoid any of that if possible.


    Any ideas?


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    It kinda depends on what it is and how much of them are there.
    I used Generic Models in the past to do this.

    All prefab concrete:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumple View Post
    how you would create a facade that looks similar to the below image:
    GM nested within CWP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    GM nested within CWP.
    I don't think that will work, because these are large components that are 'framing' curtain wall elements and balconies etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Deurloo View Post
    It kinda depends on what it is and how much of them are there.
    I used Generic Models in the past to do this.

    All prefab concrete:
    I'd rather try to avoid making 'custom' elements to produce the various corners etc... but it seems like that might be the only option.

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    Maybe an adaptive panel component might work? You could have one typical component for most of the "field" so to speak and then an adaptive component panel for the more unique situations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumple View Post
    I don't think that will work, because these are large components that are 'framing' curtain wall elements and balconies etc...
    Trust me, it does, on the proviso it's adopted as part of a planned implementation - where said glazing and balcony elements are built within arrangements (which obviously might not help you in this instance).


    I haven't any facades with chamfered pieces (like Robin's* & yours) to hand - but here's an example of wavy-shapes (!?) following the same method:

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    where everything you see in this shot is a GM (tab-selected) nested within a CWP arranged within a pattern of the CW (hover-selected).


    Quote Originally Posted by Grumple View Post
    I'd rather try to avoid making 'custom' elements to produce the various corners etc... but it seems like that might be the only option.
    This is where panelisation quickly becomes a question of design management - not modelling software functions. At some point someone somewhere is going to need to consider, cost, detail etc all those variants - and whilst you might not need to go as far as making an AC as Jeff suggests - families feat. parametric controls* really come into their own here.

    *starting with simple stuff like yes/no (user-orientated) controls for controlling geometric stuff like "show left return", "has solid infill", "parapet condition", "sill element" etc




    *Robin, Q. are your pieces individually placed/stacked/aligned elements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post

    where everything you see in this shot is a GM (tab-selected) nested within a CWP arranged within a pattern of the CWM (hover-selected).
    So even the curtain walls (panels and mullions) are all GM families?

    Doesn't this break the intelligence within Revit of being able to schedule the curtain wall types and curtain panels etc...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumple View Post
    So even the curtain walls (panels and mullions) are all GM families?
    Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumple View Post
    Doesn't this break the intelligence within Revit of being able to schedule the curtain wall types and curtain panels etc...?
    For all of about a nano-second until you realise that that "intelligence" is only what one makes of it.

    GMs are just as schedulable. And Revit categories mean nothing outside of Revit.

    Understand, the GM-hate drum has been banged for far too long.
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    Angular Facade Geometry

    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    Understand, the GM-hate drum has been banged for far too long.
    As has category purity.

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