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    BIM 360 Revit Links

    Is there any way to link in (in a cloud model) a Revit file from BIM 360 that is uploaded through browser rather than having to go through Revit and initiate through Collaborate in Cloud?

    We are working with a team that is not using Revit, but we are getting IFC, so we are able to get the Revit file from the IFC, but were hoping we could just quickly post it every time rather than having to open in and initiate through Collaborate in Cloud. It does not appear that you can link in an IFC from the cloud unfortunately.

    Thanks for any input.

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    Yes, but you need to install the desktop connector on each users machine. Then when you go to load the link you browse NOT thru the bim 360 icon on the left of the open dialog box, but browse to your pc then you will see a BIM 360 drive icon, browse thru that to your project, then folder, then you will see the file.

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    Asking for people to opine on my firm's situation between A/E depts using BIM 360 Design for Multi-office collaboration. The 1st part is; MEP is wanting to see/have a live model (from other offices that they are working on) that they can see progress daily to "adapt" sooner than later & or address changes. I feel we are spending money on 360 Design that we can avoid/redirect unless the same depts are interacting from different locations. What y'all think?
    Then the 2nd part (since it's been over 2yrs when it was called C4R that I've used the feature); what if MEP in different locations are collaborating work. How simple is it to do weekly imports from the Arch models or vice-versa. That process was a headache when in C4R. How if any has that changed? Does/will the "Desktop Connector" address that issue well for other Revit models to link in updates periodically?
    I understand that having all the disciplines in 360 Design is optimal, but if the Partners are asking to stretch that dollar because 200-300 seats of 360 Design is a pretty penny. Then the alternative of only between the same disciplines doing multi-office collaboration in the same model.
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    I just got off the phone with an Autodesk rep yesterday trying to figure out if we needed BIM 360 Design ourselves as we don't really use worksharing, but we do often work with projects that link in 3rd party disciplines. The answer I got was that the "collaboration" benefit of BIM 360 Design means that it also gives you the ability to work with external links, like other revit projects, drawings, etc. more naturally so we'll probably want to go that route. It sounds like the desktop connector is still a bit of a headache to use and I was steered away from that.

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    You can't steer away from the desktop connector if you want to link revit models that are not using design collaboration(c4r, Bim 360 design) on the cloud. I wish you could, they just released a "forced upgrade" to it. which means all users are screwed until we get IT to install the update. Totally bad form.

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    Well, you can... It just means someone whos ON the BIM360 project has to manually get the file, and manually detach it and upload it, on to BIM360 Design.

    Desktop Connector isnt installed here, nor will it be, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Desktop Connector isnt installed here, nor will it be, lol.
    Why no desktop connector? I'm fumbling through this whole 360 thing and depending on where I get information from it frequently is conflicting...

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    A number of reasons:

    1. Im generally not a fan of apps putting files on my machine, that other people are creating and modifying. BIM360 on the whole (with RCW) is a bit of an exception, but you wont find Dropbox Sync, Box Sync, One Drive, or ShareFile Sync, running on my machines. We have Sharefile, and i use it as a manual upload/download apparatus. Even our Library mirrors that happen through Px Tools, are one way (Server to mchine) and nothing ever gets pushed uphill. IT security is harder and harder, these days. I dont need tons of applications copying crap on and off my machine, so i have to worry about "them" being secure enough to prevent an incident.

    2. Autodesk cant get a grip on how to manage application installations for enterprise customers, and the Desktop Connector is a Disaster, as far as this is concerned. As Scott mentioned, the DC needs updates a LOT. And it doesnt hesitate to TELL USERS that they need an update. Ive tried providing feedback to Autodesk MANY TIMES over the last decade, about how Installations and App Management really needs to work, but suffice it to say either: They dont listen, or They dont agree with me. Its not good form to give a user a notification that they need to (or should) update an app, when it isnt in their power to do so, in many organizations. In those cases, at the IT groups discretion, the IT GROUP ONLY should get a notification about an update, and they should take it from there.

    Shoving a notice in users faces, puts undo burden and pressure on the IT staff. Its also arrogant as ****. It is tantamount to the software manufacturer assuming we all sit around all day, just waiting for there to be a critical update to the platform, that needs to be installed. Thats ridiculous.

    3. Its solving a very little problem, that we (my teams) dont encounter often. The only function of the DC is to solve the issue of syncing: Non workshared, non BIM360 based files, that we all need to link in to our common Revit Files. Thats basically: Keynotes, Assembly Codes, Shared Parameters, Material Libraries, non Workshared (or non BIM360) Revit Models, and CAD Files. So lets break that down:

    Keynotes- Revolution Design has a tool to handle this, and its not 465 ways of a pain in the ass.

    Assembly Codes, Shared Parameters, Material Libraries- All three of these, im okay with not being real time updates between everyone. If i DID care, i would have these all one way sync through our own appliance.

    non Workshared (or non BIM360) Revit Models- Just... no. If they are important, and are part of the Project, they are on BIM360. If thats an issue for a Consultant, ill put them on BIM 360 for them. This is a stupid probem.

    CAD Files-Generally, we dont rely on them, period. Our current project actually has a bunch of CAD files, because of coordinating things with Subcontractors drawings, for Submittals. But our case is pretty uniquen in that sense, as we are all fully distributed remote, and its atypical coordination to be doing. That said, we still dont bother with DC. The files dont change that often, and we can all assign a common drive letter to a folder of our choosing, and work that way.

    Even if i was still in Architecture or Engineering, and i had a "NEED" for a CAD file (and i quoted NEED intentionally), i would defer to common drive letter to local repo, and link it or repath it that way.

    Dont get me wrong: I love working on BIM360. But the only way Desktop Connector is ending up on my machine, is if someone steals my machine, reformats it, and puts DC on it after stealing it.

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    non Workshared (or non BIM360) Revit Models- Just... no. If they are important, and are part of the Project, they are on BIM360. If thats an issue for a Consultant, ill put them on BIM 360 for them. This is a stupid probem.
    This times a million. All of the issues associated with linking go away if the team as a whole are on BIM 360 Design. Beyond that, using BIM 360 Design opens up the possibility for a "Controlled Worksharing" environment. You don't have to "Live Link" so that a STC triggers updates in consultants files with a Reload Links. You can choose WHEN you are ready to go share backgrounds with the other teams.

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    I can always tell when another update comes out for the Desktop Connector. because I start getting a lot more likes on my Revit Idea:
    https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/bim-3.../idi-p/8294790

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