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    Reality check?

    Hello Everyone,

    This is not a technical question I am only trying to grasp and understand the industry.

    I am in my last year of studies (Mech Engineering) and I was lucky enough to get an internship in a small consultancy.
    I did an introductory course on Revit MEP a couple of months ago however all the Architectural links we used as example where complete models.

    I am in my second task (project) using Revit however the Architectural links we have been using are just plain PDF or AutoCAD 2d links so, no 3d models. I am finding myself having to go through papers, actual physical printed blueprints, to verify ceiling spaces and voids manually and then painfully trying to draw in the space above a flat underlay.

    My question is. Is this the norm in the industry? Is this a reality Check?

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    Tolueno
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolueno View Post
    This is not a technical question I am only trying to grasp and understand the industry.
    Then to the "Out There" sub-forum we go...

    Welcome to the forum Tolueno!
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    Construction and design is often a relatively local economy. So where are you? Personally I hardly ever come across 2D documentation anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ekkonap View Post
    Personally I hardly ever come across 2D documentation anymore.
    Lucky you..
    ..we still have clients that demand 'BIM' but have zero interest in 3D models, no matter how easy and accessible you make it. And bang on endlessly about the quality of the 2D drawings produced from a work in progress model...

    Welcome to our wonderfully conservative industry that is still catching up to the 1990's from the 1890's.
    And a Database for project data you say?? What kind of unholy satanic wizard are you??
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolueno View Post
    I am in my second task (project) using Revit however the Architectural links we have been using are just plain PDF or AutoCAD 2d links so, no 3d models. I am finding myself having to go through papers, actual physical printed blueprints, to verify ceiling spaces and voids manually and then painfully trying to draw in the space above a flat underlay.

    My question is. Is this the norm in the industry? Is this a reality Check?
    Interesting to see that there are people now that have never done any work in 2D (Thank you for making me feel old).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tolueno View Post

    My question is. Is this the norm in the industry? Is this a reality Check?

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    Tolueno
    Well, as of my experience if anyone down the lane of so called chained consultants are not upgraded or not Revit capable then we are stuck (unless the client is happy to go with another consultant) and it's a pain to review all your 2D or PDF's to read information. But in ideal world the project should be in 3D.

    I personally came across one service is in 3D and the other is in 2d and the project went to construction stage without 3D coordination and it was disaster. In another case
    a consultant who is producing revit mech documents in black and white rather color because they never issued color documents in their entire life.
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    Might depend on where you live or what sector of the industry your working in.

    I wouldn't say it's the norm, however I'm sure you'll come across projects that are not entirely done in 3D by each discipline (as you are now).

    It's extremely painful mixing the two and expecting a quality result. Hopefully you'll be able to resolve conflicts a head of time and then take the opportunity to educate the client (if that individual picked the team) that projects can have better results when the team works in a 3D environment.

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    I am finishing my studies as international student in NZ. The country is small but it has a strong economy.

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    Thanks a lot guys. It is always good to hear the input from experienced people>

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