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    Arrow Head Line weights

    Hello! I'm a beginner to Revit. I need to change the line weight to my arrowheads, but not to the leaders. Can someone please walk me through this? I understand that it is not an simple press of a button, and I will have to go through a process of creating a new sub-category to a family. But I need help with this, not sure how to do it. My boss wants the Arrows dark, it MUST be done. lol.

    Thanks in Advance!
    -Christiana

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    You can change the style of arrowhead but can't change the line weight of the arrowhead independently from the leader.
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    Use a filled-in Arrowhead?

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    My boss is really... particular.. lol.. So far the only way I found to do it is very... tedious.. and will be too time consuming. But just so you all know.... I will try to explain. I'm going to use photos. Use a spot coordinate instead of a text leader... photo 1: You gotta go into your property browser and scroll down to "spot elev symbol" open any one of those sub categories and duplicate. Type the text you want the leader to say here.... now, photo 2: make a spot coordinate, (you'll need a reference plane because it is supposed to attach to walls and whatnot.) Edit type - change leader to arrow head of your preference. change symbol to the text you just created in the project browser, and edit the line weights accordingly. Photo 3: scroll down in the type properties and change "top value" and "bottom Value" to none. AND MAGIC! pic 4: FINISHED! Unfortunately there is way too much text in my drawing to make a new text for every single one.. I'm still looking for another way. But I figured I'd share these findings, since I asked the questions. I'm going to keep trying to find a better way! I'll update in this post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccabral3 View Post
    My boss is really... particular.. lol.. So far the only way I found to do it is very... tedious.. and will be too time consuming. But just so you all know.... I will try to explain. I'm going to use photos. Use a spot coordinate instead of a text leader... photo 1: You gotta go into your property browser and scroll down to "spot elev symbol" open any one of those sub categories and duplicate. Type the text you want the leader to say here.... now, photo 2: make a spot coordinate, (you'll need a reference plane because it is supposed to attach to walls and whatnot.) Edit type - change leader to arrow head of your preference. change symbol to the text you just created in the project browser, and edit the line weights accordingly. Photo 3: scroll down in the type properties and change "top value" and "bottom Value" to none. AND MAGIC! pic 4: FINISHED! Unfortunately there is way too much text in my drawing to make a new text for every single one.. I'm still looking for another way. But I figured I'd share these findings, since I asked the questions. I'm going to keep trying to find a better way! I'll update in this post!
    I'm sure others will follow up, but you need to stop this right now. Using a Spot Elevation tool as a textual leader is absolutely asinine. If you will go to this much trouble of a workaround for a simple thing like an arrowhead thickness, then Christiana, you have only begun the disastrous workarounds that will subsequently follow.

    If your boss will not bend on these little things, then don't even bother using Revit. If Revit is required, then your boss will have no other choice but to give in to Revit's limited options on certain things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzframpton View Post
    I'm sure others will follow up, but you need to stop this right now. Using a Spot Elevation tool as a textual leader is absolutely asinine. If you will go to this much trouble of a workaround for a simple thing like an arrowhead thickness, then Christiana, you have only begun the disastrous workarounds that will subsequently follow.

    If your boss will not bend on these little things, then don't even bother using Revit. If Revit is required, then your boss will have no other choice but to give in to Revit's limited options on certain things.

    -TZ
    I would second this. There are some things that Revit will display differently than AutoCAD, just like AutoCAD displays some things differently than Hand Drafting (or Microstation, or FormZ, or Vectorworks, etc...) and your boss will just have to learn to deal with it, just like my boss did and just like so many others have before. There is a time and place for workarounds and chicanery but honestly this isn't one of them. It can be a bumpy road but in the long run Revit is so much better to work and design in than CAD it isn't even funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccabral3 View Post
    Hello! I'm a beginner to Revit. I need to change the line weight to my arrowheads, but not to the leaders. Can someone please walk me through this? I understand that it is not an simple press of a button, and I will have to go through a process of creating a new sub-category to a family. But I need help with this, not sure how to do it. My boss wants the Arrows dark, it MUST be done. lol.

    Thanks in Advance!
    -Christiana
    Christiana-

    Welcome to the forum. Im going to "third" whats been said here, but im also going to give you (and your boss) some advice, about what Tannar was alluding to: Revit has a lot of things that you cant change the look, or style, or formatting of. These are the minor inconveniences that we deal with, to get all of the benefits that come with working in Revit.

    I would recommend having an HONEST heart to heart with your boss, or having your boss meet with someone whos been around the block implementing Revit in an office, before. He obviously draws a comparison to setting up digital drafting software, where (since things are assemblies of lines and lineweights) you could customize just about everything that you want.

    Your boss is particular, but guess what: Lots of bosses are. Unfortunately, that doesnt mean they can have it their way, without seriously crippling your efforts. Leader Lines, arrowheads, Schedule formatting, Revision Schedules, Section Heads, Elevation Markers, Dimension Formatting, certain Lineweight standards, hatching standards, Project phasing graphics: These are all things that wont bend to *specific standards,* but that HAVE WAYS of accomplishing "the work."

    The best thing you (and your boss) can do, is to learn (and learn quickly) what CAN you customize, what CANT you customize, and learn to accept the latter.
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    Hey guys, I totally agree that using a spot coordination is way too tedious to actually be done.. I guess my point is that I was close, maybe I could get closer.... However, I thought I made it clear that it would be way too tedious to do it that way. anyway, I have read that there is a way to do this, but with my limited Revit knowledge I was unable to understand the process. They were talking about creating a sub category to a tag family. I didn't understand how that had to do with arrow heads.. Anyway, I totally get that my boss is going to have to understand that it just can't be done if it truly can't be done... But I had to at least try. I just so happened to have some free time last week to do so. Anyway, thank you all for your thoughts on the matter!

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    heavy ticks has always been on my wishlist, but I certainly don't do weird workarounds just for the sake of producing them

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