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    Autodesk "Industry Collections"

    Just got news of the new "Industry Collections" that will replace suites for sale this summer. Well, new seats will have triple the subscription costs. A seat of the the AEC collection will cost someone $2700CDN per year. A far cry from the 700/year that we've been paying for subscription on a $5k initial outlay. Looks like Adesk is really pushing to increase their annual income stream. That, ladies and gentlemen is a big chunk of change.

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    Just talked to my reseller, because I got the same thing and couldn't believe the pricing. It's real and I'm in shock

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    I cant say FOR SURE, but i dont believe thats the yearly price AFTER the initial outlay. The "initial outlay" is based on Desktop subscriptions, which are going away. We will be grandfathered in, if we have them already, but you cant buy them with the "big chunk of change up front and sub fees" method anymore. So the 2600 a year is basically the new "rental" price.

    Im waiting (quietly) to see what the grandathered subscription prices are going to be, for those of us that bought desktop suite subscriptions.

    Im not getting up in arms quite yet. At least the package alignments make more sense in the new model (everyone in AEC gets Manage...)

    EDIT: Here is where it says you can stay on your old *maintenance plan,* it just doesnt say what the price is... lol:

    http://www.autodesk.com/maintenance-plan
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    Nah, that's the price every year. It's roughly the same for the BDS Premium now. So that's the new reality.

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    Thats been the price of BDS... If you didnt have a maintenance plan already in place. Thats my point. But ill see if i can get some clarification. I dont think ongoing maintenance plans on older desktop BDS suites, are that much. Mine was 1100 i think (for ultimate), which i recall being pretty normal.

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    If you've got a perpetual license then you keep paying a smaller maintenance subscription. But those new licenses are killers. $2700 CDN sounds alright - it's over $5k AUD here. It basically means we need to factor that amount in for every new employee (which is a bit crap).

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    If you own a perpetual license today, you can keep it on your current maintenance plan, with no change in pricing. (this is the old Buy Software - pay yearly Subscription Fee)

    The new collections model: You never pay an up front capital outlay. You only pay for Desktop Subscription. And only for the length of time you need it. More Flexibility! Approx $2700US pricing is for annual subscription with single-user access. Other subscription options will include multi-user access and term lengths of monthly, quarterly, and multi-year. Need an intern for 3 months during the summer? Do you buy them a seat of perpetual BDSu at $12 grand for only 3 months? Under the new model, you can get it for monthly or quarterly for a fraction of the cost.

    So the old way: pay approx $12 grand US upfront for a license of BDS Ultimate, THEN pay $1100 a year US in Maintenance Subscription yearly

    Over the course of 5 years: 12,000 + 1,100 + 1,100 + 1,100 + 1,100 + 1,100 = 17,500

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    The new way: pay approx $2700 US per year. Done. And get access to nearly every tool available for AEC, Including Cloud Service like Recap Pro.

    Over the course of 5 years: 2,700 + 2,700 + 2,700 + 2,700 + 2,700 = 13,500

    Of course, you still have options of Desktop Subscriptions (DTS) to individual products as well. This new model will allow you to get a seat of something like only Revit for a term of only a month, out to 3 years, at pricing that will be much easier to digest than for paying for a seat outright, and then paying yearly subscription on top of that.

    Customers have also told us this new model will help with yearly business planning when trying to balance Capital expenditures vs Operating expenditures.

    Hope that helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    It just doesnt say what the price is... lol:
    Your current maintenance plan will remain the same cost for as long as you continue to keep it current, within the terms of your contract
    Last edited by Scott D Davis; June 24th, 2016 at 03:24 AM. Reason: revised text: within the terms of your contract
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    Thanks Scott! I was pretty sure that was the case, but wasnt sure if the numbers were staying EXACTLY where they were now, or slight changes.

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    We have BDSP, not Ultimate. We don't need Navisworks Manage or Civil 3D, certainly not on every machine. The 5 year cost of a new BDSP is 11400. If we get the new Industry Collections it is 13450 then after that you're getting reamed at 3 times the cost per year
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