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    Detail / Section reference

    I have a sheet of details in acad which I have linked into my Revit project.
    How can I add section cuts to my plans to flag these details?
    Trying to avoid bringing each detail in seperately to its own drafting view.

    #2
    I do not recommend this practice, but here's a workaround...

    If you have 20 details on your linked ACAD dwg, create 19 drafting views. In each view, put a piece of annotation; a single "." at your smallest text size.

    In your Sheet View, you've probably already dragged in your ACAD linked view. It's probably already registering as detail number 1. Drag each of the 19 dummy views onto your Sheet, into the binding margin. They should automatically number themselves, 2 - 20.
    After they're all placed on the Sheet View, you can select all of the dummy views and change their Viewport to "No Title."

    Now, you have 20 views on your Sheet that you can place sections cuts in your plans, using "reference other view" on the options bar.

    Like I said... I DO NOT RECOMMEND this method.

    If I'm going to have ACAD links, I'll go ahead and create a link for each and every detail. That way, when I cut the section in my plans, I can double click the section and go to the link that is the correct representation of my section cut. With the dummy views, when you double click the section marker, all you get is a piece of annotation.
    Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
    AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
    ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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      #3
      I have a similar approach:

      I would leave the sheet of details from ACAD in ACAD. Don't even bother importing them. Then cut the sections/details you want in your Revit model. Create a 'dummy' sheet that has the same sheet number as the ACAD details and move these 'blank' details that you just cut in the model to this sheet and make sure the numbering corresponds with your ACAD sheet. That way the callout tags in the model will show the correct numbering/sheet as the ACAD file. Just remember to print the ACAD sheet and not the Revit sheet for these details when compiling your set...
      Chad Koscinski | Architect

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        #4
        This is the method I use.

        Originally posted by Chadwick17 View Post
        I have a similar approach:

        I would leave the sheet of details from ACAD in ACAD. Don't even bother importing them. Then cut the sections/details you want in your Revit model. Create a 'dummy' sheet that has the same sheet number as the ACAD details and move these 'blank' details that you just cut in the model to this sheet and make sure the numbering corresponds with your ACAD sheet. That way the callout tags in the model will show the correct numbering/sheet as the ACAD file. Just remember to print the ACAD sheet and not the Revit sheet for these details when compiling your set...

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          #5
          I'm using the method "make separate details and link ea one into its own drafting view.
          The only thing is in the object settings i have to modify the line wieghts for each imported detail.
          Pretty new to Revit so thanks for the help. Forums are very helpful.

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            #6
            You may not have the time for this right now, but ultimately what you'll want to do is recreate those details in a Revit file. Otherwise, the next time you need those linked details in a project you're going to have to go through the entire process of linking each file and changing their line work again.

            Personally, I try to keep ACAD as far away from my Revit projects as possible.
            Chad Koscinski | Architect

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              #7
              Originally posted by Chadwick17 View Post

              Personally, I try to keep ACAD as far away from my Revit projects as possible.
              Indeed, if one MUST use DWG details for a while, there is something to be said for splitting the sheet up into single details, importing each detail into a Detail Component, and using those in Revit until you make time to make true Drafting Views for those details that really are Drafting View appropriate (flooring transitions, typical door jamb and head conditions, suspended ceiling, etc) and the rest gets eventually made into appropriate Detail Components that actually represent individual components.

              Linked plans for AutoCAD based consultants is one thing, but ANY other use of DWGs can cause real grief. Use of DWGs for in house work should be on the very top of the "Lets move beyond this FAST" list.

              Gordon
              Pragmatic Praxis

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gordon Price View Post
                Indeed, if one MUST use DWG details for a while, there is something to be said for splitting the sheet up into single details, importing each detail into a Detail Component, and using those in Revit until you make time to make true Drafting Views for those details that really are Drafting View appropriate (flooring transitions, typical door jamb and head conditions, suspended ceiling, etc) and the rest gets eventually made into appropriate Detail Components that actually represent individual components.

                Linked plans for AutoCAD based consultants is one thing, but ANY other use of DWGs can cause real grief. Use of DWGs for in house work should be on the very top of the "Lets move beyond this FAST" list.

                Gordon
                Yup, I use this one.
                Or the "sorry, can't be done. Schedule a day or two to redo them as a native Revit detail"-approach.
                In the long run, this is ALWAYS faster.
                Martijn de Riet
                Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
                MdR Advies
                Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                  Yup, I use this one.
                  Or the "sorry, can't be done. Schedule a day or two to redo them as a native Revit detail"-approach.
                  In the long run, this is ALWAYS faster.
                  here we go again! I think that given ones type of detailing that some slack should be given to those that MUST use Acad linked details. My current project has over 400 of them many of which could not be recreated in Revit due to their complexity and finite detail. I have had no problems with my Revit project file due to these links, it's quick to jump to Acad to make changes and reload the details in Revit, the Revit project remains small and compact. Not to mention faster for me in the long run. If I would have recreated these +400 details to Revit I'd be done in July...maybe

                  your mileage may vary
                  I'm retired, if you don't like it, go around!

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                    #10
                    Dve, i know we have had this discussion over and over, but lets agree on this: Yours is a very special case, since youre doing something much closer to fabrication than to Architecture or Engineering. Obviously because of the limitation in small lines, you CANT do SOME of this stuff in Revit natively. But even WITH that said, the workflow- as you know- still is lossy and sucky, in comparison to if you COULD have it all in Revit.

                    It might not seem that way for you, but it appears you have a hard line in the sand of what is in CAD and what is in Revit.

                    Its not about "giving people slack" so much as giving them a better workflow, where possible. Ive got one project team in my office right now, where one of the designers hasnt learned revit yet (senior level). So he is drawing in CAD, and emailing it to the project team, and theyre fighting with me to link it in *just to get through this deadline.* Im not stopping them, but im keeping metrics of their hours, because im SURE theyre spending more time and money than i would have, modeling it.
                    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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