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    Gusset Plate Family

    Took some time today and with help from an engineer made a Gusset Plate family.

    RST users feel free to use it. I will be developing it more over the next couple weeks.
    You will need to insert the plate on a grid line, and at the center or your framing. Then fill out your brace angle, offsets, beam sizes, and all that good stuff.

    Enjoy


    PS:
    I wanted to get the more advanced family creators feed back though. Let me know what you think. How could I of done things more effectively? Any Tips?

    Thanks
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    Last edited by Alex Cunningham; March 9, 2011, 06:20 PM. Reason: Updated Attachment
    -Alex Cunningham

    #2
    I made this family have and sloped top. For roof conditons.

    I could use some help on a beam slope condition of 0 degrees. I am not clear on how to get the family to react to a zero slope condition. Right now if you have a beam slope of 0 it breaks the family. Either having a way for it to not allow 0 or to deal with the value of 0 would be awesome.

    Any advice?
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    -Alex Cunningham

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      #3
      Straight off I cant even really see how you are meant to place this component? It looks like you are hosting it to plate which is already present to the end of the brace member?

      As for the zero angle, anything angle drive you should be looking to use reference "lines" instead of planes that should make things a little easier to constrain

      Also for changing the angle you could look into using a void rather than flexing the plate solid. Voids are useful in these cases as it wont affect other constraints on the solid

      But firstly I am intrested to know how you are placing this component
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        #4
        Well I am in a section view placing it a the intersections of the brace frame, column and beam. I set it to place on a grid line as my face/reference plane and it inserts at the TOS. This allow the plate to be at the centr of my brace frame.

        I will post a sample tomorrow morning before work. This is my first attemp at making a model family and I am learning alot. Thank you for the feedback.

        Anyothers have some feedback?
        -Alex Cunningham

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          #5
          See attached image to understand how the family is used.
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          -Alex Cunningham

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            #6
            And now a center gusset with deck thickness offset.

            I would be intrested in seeing how others might go about making this type of a family.
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            -Alex Cunningham

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              #7
              Ok now I understand. Most of my projects don't always have grid lines at steel frames, so I am generally hosting my plates straight to the column face which means they are 90 degrees different to yours to place

              It is almost impossible to change or copy a family like this to a new host template if you change your mind

              I will take a closer look at what you have and give some more constructive help
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                #8
                I have several gusset plate families each for a different purpose. Some have adjustable angle chamfers cut out of the corners so it can act as a web stiffener, others are set to have one side taper, or both sides taper. If you have constrained an angle into the family however, you can never set this to 0 as it will just 'break' the family. Simply save the existing family as and take out your tapers, and call it gusset plate no taper... this image shows actually 3 of the different plate styles I am talking about. At the top of the column I have web stiffeners with chamfered corners at the web (which you cant see because it joins the web), on the top flange of rafter (actually not sure you can see this well in this image) there is another gusset plate connecting the bracing rods, and lastly, on the door head RHS beam between the column, you can see tapered gusset plates acting as stiffeners on the RHS end connection. (RHS is sort of midfield in the image)
                The first image is a new one showing the top flange plate which is face based on the narrow face to be able to connect to the flange side.
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                Last edited by Karalon10; March 11, 2011, 04:20 AM.

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                  #9
                  An update. I am standardized them families to the way our engineers name and engineer them. I am not done yet with all the different case numbers but will get there once I have my free time.

                  I am sure these wont pretain to others way of engineering gusset plates but they are still cool to see work.
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                  -Alex Cunningham

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                    #10
                    Hello Alex,
                    Thank yoy very much for posted families.
                    I just wondering - in real model do you change "Width of brace" manualy for every connection or you are able to grab this information fron brace element?
                    Let say you have HSS or Double angle as a brace and this brace is different for several gridlines. There are several sizes of HSS and D.Angl. loaded into the model. You know that along gridline 1 HSS will be used. Can you grab information from loaded structural framing family about the width of the element and connect in to the "width of brace"? And when you change size of the brace along gridline 1 all connections will be updated?

                    If you can do that - could you please help me with that?

                    Thank you very much.

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