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    How to model something like this (klein bottle house)

    Hello,
    I'm doing some more modeling in revit architecture 2011, and I have trouble doing something like klein bottle house
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CB4Q9QEwAA

    I would guess I should do a mass, and than do wall by a face, but what would be the most efficient way of creating that kind of mass inside the revit?
    Thank you in advance,
    Pejic Petar

    #2
    Maybe you should start with a mass that defines the maximum dimensions you can have on site.
    Then design a mass, add edges, stretch edges, try, try again, try again and again.

    You will be able to put roof, floor and walls by faces, even if sometimes elements won't stay attached.

    good luck, show us a picture at the end.

    :wine:
    Julien
    "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
    P. DAC
    Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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      #3
      Could I somehow import mass into revit from some other 3d polygonal modeling software (like 3d max, modo, etc...) I found modeling in that evniroment way more easier than in revit. I know I can import models from rhino.

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        #4
        I think you can export the object as a SAT file or DWG, then import into CAD. Be aware that there is sometimes issues with the triangulation of faces when importing. But I'm sure someone else prob has a little more info on that.
        Anyways, import the file in revit in an in-place massing family and then you can use wall by face etc.
        Juan Carlos Moreno
        Store Designer & Merchandising Manager
        Sisley Cosmetics

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          #5
          I've experimented with success 3D dwg import (coming from Microstation), sketchup and sat, but not in an in-place familiy, I prefer a generic mass family.
          Walls by face works fine (even with shapes created with Nucleus, we spoke about here), got some problems sometimes with floors and roofs.
          You must be aware that to modify the geometry in Revit, you will have to update faces of the mass family, and for that replace the previous imported model with another.
          the best choice is still to model all in Revit.
          Julien
          "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
          P. DAC
          Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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            #6
            Nice task, I would definately want to see the endresult. I'm guessing you should start with the max dimensions and after this start removing parts using voids. I think that adding edges and stretching isn't the way to go because this is too much trying and testing.
            Martijn de Riet
            Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
            MdR Advies
            Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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              #7
              Originally posted by pjetrus View Post
              Hello,
              I'm doing some more modeling in revit architecture 2011, and I have trouble doing something like klein bottle house
              http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CB4Q9QEwAA

              I would guess I should do a mass, and than do wall by a face, but what would be the most efficient way of creating that kind of mass inside the revit?
              Thank you in advance,
              Pejic Petar
              If you are looking for the mathematical solution to the Klein Bottle I would suggest looking up Zach Kron over at http://buildz.blogspot.com/

              But if you want to have this modelled in more basic way in Revit with just massing and basic join/cut geometry with voids exct. This is a fun one. I have worked with similar forms in some designs in the past in previous releases as well as 2011 massing. If you dont mind sharing your idea I would love to take crack at the shapes.

              Cheers.

              PS Morning Martjin
              MW

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