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    visibility flexing

    When editing a family, why is it when I flex a parameter that has visibility on or off, I do not see the result?
    I have to wait until I have loaded it into the project, then the visibility works.
    I'm puzzled.
    Motorbike riding is one long bezier curve
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    #2
    Have always been bothering me too... At least the visibility settings on nested families is "visible" in the family editor.
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      #3
      does that mean, in other words, the result is visible (so to speak) in the next stage up, or out.
      sounds like another of those wish list things that we always forget about.
      Last edited by biff; May 3, 2012, 12:01 PM.
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        #4
        The affect of visibility parameters can be seen in the Family Editor when the family is flexed. However the change is rather subtle. The geometry controled by the visibility parameter will be displayed "halftone" when the family is flexed and the visibility is set to off. When the visibility parameter is set to on the geometry will be "full black".
        Jeff Hanson
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        Autodesk, Revit - User Experience

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          #5
          Originally posted by JeffH View Post
          The affect of visibility parameters can be seen in the Family Editor when the family is flexed. However the change is rather subtle. The geometry controled by the visibility parameter will be displayed "halftone" when the family is flexed and the visibility is set to off. When the visibility parameter is set to on the geometry will be "full black".
          Is this a programatic limitation or something that could be adjusted via API or in a setting? I hate to make the comparison - but when editing DB's in ACA there is a toggle to turn objects not in a visibility state off, on, or ghosted - is that something that should be wishlisted for Revit?
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            #6
            I knew about the half tone setting that Jeff is talking about, but just like he said its very subtle. This can get very tricky when lines are on top of lines.
            -Alex Cunningham

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              #7
              Originally posted by cellophane View Post
              Is this a programatic limitation or something that could be adjusted via API or in a setting? I hate to make the comparison - but when editing DB's in ACA there is a toggle to turn objects not in a visibility state off, on, or ghosted - is that something that should be wishlisted for Revit?
              Since I am not a developer I am not totaly sure what the limitations are. With unlimited time and unlimited money anything is possible right?

              In the project environment there is a setting to control halftone/underlay display value. This control is not present in the Family Editor. This control was added maybe 3 releases ago for the project environment so I am assuming it is technically possible to add to the Family Editor as well. It could be as simple as turning on the control and adding a button to the drop down, but then again I am not a developer so there may be some other limitation here?
              Jeff Hanson
              Sr. Subject Matter Expert
              Autodesk, Revit - User Experience

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                #8
                I am no code monkey either, but halftone in a project and on/off in the family editor seem like they would be 2 entirely different functions, but if it were possible to control the vis at the current nested level I would hope that we could also save that state to the view. Hiding geometry before saving is a task I can do without, especially managing a large library.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alex Cunningham View Post
                  I knew about the half tone setting that Jeff is talking about, but just like he said its very subtle. This can get very tricky when lines are on top of lines.
                  Actually it can be impossible if lines are on top of lines. I was hoping there might be an objects styles setting for this behaviour, but by the look of where you guys are going I presume there is not.
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                    #10
                    I always thought it was intended, since if you turn off visibilty of a piece of geometry without linking it to a parameter, how would you select it to revert that or link it to a parameter? (Since you did not hide it)

                    The fact that it is awkward when controlled by if statements seems like a by product of that thought.

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