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    Hi,

    I'm looking for advices in using the copy monitor feature. I haven't use it yet, unless for testing.

    What is the best work-flow?

    thanx
    Julien
    "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
    P. DAC
    Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

    #2
    Julien,
    I only use the Copy/Monitor feature for my grids and levels. That way, if the architect changes a grid or level in their model, I get a message that there's been a change.
    Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
    AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
    ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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      #3
      We use Copy Monitor for a lot of things.... But we ONLY use the Monitor portion, not the copy. The Copy in CM makes way too many assumptions, and it gets way too many things wrong. In my blog (www.malleristicrevitation.blogspot.com) i have a post from WAY back... 2007 i think, that shows this. Families get the wrong size openings, walls get the wrong location line if you change the thickness, etc.

      So we go with a manual tab-select, copy, paste. Then set to Monitor. All of the benefits, none of the shortcomings.
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
      @Web | @Twitter | @LinkedIn | @Email

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        #4
        Thank you for the answers. I got the same problem with the wall centerline.

        I have to test the way you just described Aaron. But the factory should also work a little on this to make it more handy.

        see you,
        Julien
        "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
        P. DAC
        Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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          #5
          I pointed it out to them in 2006, and they havent changed it at all. I wouldnt get your hopes up.
          Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
          @Web | @Twitter | @LinkedIn | @Email

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            #6
            I also agree on the Monitor Levels and Grids as the bare minimum setup from day one

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              #7
              Definatly grids and levels on all projects. But don't go just selecting everything in the arch model. I would progress with the same approach as setting up a model. For me that is first creating levels, then creating main level plans, then creating grids

              You would be surprised how roughly some models are thrown together, so 3D extents and order of grid ends can be all over the place on some models! if your like me you might just model your own grids and monitor the arch model

              Also don't forget your level doesn't even have to match the linked model. A monitor will monitor the relative position and maintain. This is useful when there is a large build up and you want a stuctural level not a FFL

              Columns are pretty safe to CM if you need to, but in reality they are better only in the structural model if they are structural

              Walls are a pain, I hate openings they are hopeless. I wish a CM would just bring in a basic door or window with only the opening. I try not to CM walls, my preference is link the arch wills into the view if required for NLB, and model my own for LB and monitor if required.
              Revit BLOGGAGE

              http://www.revic.org.au

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                #8
                I will prefer to Levels and Grids to be copy- monitored.The CM tools it self have a lot of limitations such as >>

                1. If the Architects changes the height or the family type (from Concrete to steel column or any other family) Type Name and Size of the copy/monitored column Revit won’t gave any warning.

                2.If the Architects changes the wall thickness the coordination review won’t give any message to strctural engineer.

                3. Any minor changes in the Floor Slab edges will result a complete deleting of all dimensioning works done by the structural drafts person for the slab.

                4. The managing compatibility of CM tool...After CM every time as you open a structural central file you will fine list of errors under warnings.

                These are few things.... There are such many things.

                So in my opinion use CM tool only for Level and grid.
                Yogesh

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