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    I recall that back a few versions ago when Revit crashed we were able to look at the Journal file to see what was going on. Does anyone have any experience reading these for crash reports to see what is going on? We have a file that has really started to have issues including crashing and I am trying to figure out what is going on.

    I have checked graphics card drivers, 12gb of ram (high total computer utilization gets to around 10gb), I really don't think CPU would have any affect nor HDD. We audit and compact weekly and I go through after every big package issue and delete un-named views.

    #2
    Check your warnings within Revit...might have too many...and journal files only work with non-workshared projects..else they are in your temp directory. Else it should be in your temp directory.....type %temp% from the Search programs and files in the start menu... (I think...don't have Revit at home)
    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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      #3
      Originally posted by MPwuzhere View Post
      Check your warnings within Revit...might have too many...and journal files only work with non-workshared projects..else they are in your temp directory. Else it should be in your temp directory.....type %temp% from the Search programs and files in the start menu... (I think...don't have Revit at home)
      The journal is located in localappdata I am just not sure what I am looking for in the journal file itself. I review my warnings quite frequently and for the size of the project we have I feel that the number of warnings we have is with in reason. Mainly because I am not really sure how to fix 80% of the warnings it is giving me especially without messing something up in the documents.

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        #4
        Journals work for all files, Workshared or not. However, its probably not going to tell you whats causing the crashes, just that something is crashing.

        1. Is this a regular workshared model, or a model on Revit Server?
        2. Is there a lot of CAD Links/Imports in the project?
        2a. If so, are they on their own workset?
        3. Go to VG: Imports: Imports in Families- Is there a lot there? A lot of layers?
        4. How far from the Project Internal Origin is the Model built?
        5. Exact number of warnings?
        5a. How many of them are "No Loss Defined?" (That one is stupid and doesnt affect much)
        Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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          #5
          1. Is this a regular workshared model, or a model on Revit Server? Regular
          2. Is there a lot of CAD Links/Imports in the project? 21 Revit Links
          2a. If so, are they on their own workset? All Revit links are on their own workset, of which the majority are all turned off my default in each view. The only that are turned on my default are the existing buildings that we need to see in our CDS which is 4 of the links.
          3. Go to VG: Imports: Imports in Families- Is there a lot there? A lot of layers? 20 layers, no other import category.
          4. How far from the Project Internal Origin is the Model built? Pretty close actually.
          5. Exact number of warnings? 65 warnings for a 125mb RST file that is 800,000sf...I think that's pretty reasonable in my opinion. I just don't know how to resolve most of them without re-moedling the element
          5a. How many of them are "No Loss Defined?" (That one is stupid and doesnt affect much) See attached.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
            Journals work for all files, Workshared or not. However, its probably not going to tell you whats causing the crashes, just that something is crashing.
            My bad...didn't have a workshared project at home to double check myself... :coffee:
            Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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              #7
              Yeah, all of that sounds well within the realm of normal operation. BTW, under manage links i was asking about DWG links, not RVT.

              BTW, i would go in to worksets and UNLOAD the linked worksets you dont need, not make them off by default in all views. See if the issue lessens or goes away. If it does, start trying one or two links at a time, see if you can isolate what makes it crash...
              Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                #8
                There are no DWG links, just Revit. I hadn't thought about unloading worksets from the linked Revit files, I have just made it so that the Architectural models are on their own Workset in my file and then have that workset shut off by default in every view. I know that the Architecturals seem to have many issues as well, they seem to go corrupt every other week or so. What are your thoughts on the warnings I have?

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                  #9
                  My thought is nothing in there should make a model go crashy crash.

                  Not visible in a view is nowhere near the same as unloaded. I would see if unloading the Arch helps. If it does, then try loading it, but make sure nothing but walls from their model are visible anyway, with a serious view template.

                  My guess? Youre model might not have junk in it, but theres could. And if theirs does.... Yours does.
                  Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
                    My thought is nothing in there should make a model go crashy crash.

                    Not visible in a view is nowhere near the same as unloaded. I would see if unloading the Arch helps. If it does, then try loading it, but make sure nothing but walls from their model are visible anyway, with a serious view template.

                    My guess? Youre model might not have junk in it, but theres could. And if theirs does.... Yours does.
                    I have 3 Arch Interior models and 1 Arch C&S model. I need both daily to keep coordinating floor penetrations and slab depressions due to the bathrooms and other elements. As well as coordinate where they want raised slabs and curbs (which I felt they should just model since us Structural do not really care where those are). So just with the amount that I coordinate with the Arch models is why I am not really wanting to just unload them...that and we have some building elevations that show only the Arch C&S model. The other links (other than the other Structural links for the other buildings I could definitely unload.

                    Thanks for your input!

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