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    Crop Region rotation?

    any way to tell if a crop region has been rotated?
    I'm retired, if you don't like it, go around!

    #2
    Create a new view...make both in the same direction (ie Project North)...put them side to side and see what you get...

    We just learned about the pitfalls of rotating a cropped region at our user group meeting a couple of weeks ago.....
    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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      #3
      Trick question ???
      The "plan view" will be will be rotated ???
      Mark Balsom

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        #4
        Originally posted by mark b View Post
        Trick question ???
        The "plan view" will be will be rotated ???
        heh, yeah that would be so except this is a linked file that I need to build stuff on and I think that the view is rotated. I want north to be up to the north ya know
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          #5
          Originally posted by MPwuzhere View Post
          Create a new view...make both in the same direction (ie Project North)...put them side to side and see what you get...

          We just learned about the pitfalls of rotating a cropped region at our user group meeting a couple of weeks ago.....
          can't, see my response to markb
          I'm retired, if you don't like it, go around!

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            #6
            Can you turn on "project base point and survey point" in linked file to compare.
            In a rotated view North indicator moves (not up)
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            Mark Balsom

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              #7
              Originally posted by Dave Jones View Post
              can't, see my response to markb
              WOW...I thought the folks talking about this was an isolated incident....my understanding is you have to rotate all your views too....else tell whoever rotated the view in the first place how to use Project North and True North....
              Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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                #8
                Rotating a single view (crop region) works independent of Project and True North.
                Is it a single view we are talking about ?
                Mark Balsom

                If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

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                  #9
                  My understanding of all this is: they rotate their views instead of modifying the Project North...so when you link their model in its facing the wrong direction...if you try to compensate by moving your project north, the linked model moves too... And the reason they don't want to fix their model the correct way is because they already spent all their time rotating all of their crop regions..

                  I pray nobody in my office learns that you can rotate the crop region...
                  Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MPwuzhere View Post
                    My understanding of all this is: they rotate their views instead of modifying the Project North...so when you link their model in its facing the wrong direction...if you try to compensate by moving your project north, the linked model moves too... And the reason they don't want to fix their model the correct way is because they already spent all their time rotating all of their crop regions..

                    I pray nobody in my office learns that you can rotate the crop region...
                    well, firstly it turns out that the crop region in question was not rotated but I left this hanging a bit because it's still an interesting question (to me anyway). This was a small model of a portico. Normally one would get a hint from the elevation view names but in this case they were named Front, Back, Side1, and Side2. To me Front would be south but I wasn't sure so I ended up asking the originator and that was the case. So all is cool in the world of orientation.

                    Secondly, what's the problem with rotating a crop region? I do it all the time with duplicated plan views that are made into enlarged plan views. In my industry drafting convention is that all enlarged plans have the exterior facing down on a sheet. Only way to do that is to rotate a crop region for those plans that are not south facing. It doesn't have anything to do with the orientation of the model to North or True North.
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