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    Proxy face in Face Based families - delete it?

    When dealing with Face Based families, the default templates provide a proxy face, a big ugly gray box. Now sure, this stuff doesn't show up the project, nor does it show up in the Project Browser previews, but it DOPES show up in the file system preview, unless you fuss with hiding it, and you can't turn off the category, you have to manually hide the stupid thing every time you save. Ugh.
    Now at best it provides some context for modeling in 3D, but you can just as easily Show Work Plane if you need that context. Which has led me to explore rebuilding some templates, gutting rid of all sorts of other kruft at the same time.
    Just wondering if anyone else has gone down that road? Or does everyone just accept/ignore the big putty slab in the room?

    Gordon
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    One company I know, their "family guy" shrinks it down to a small puck. I've not tried to delete it, doubt Revit will let you.

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      I 100% just ignore it. I dont use the previews in Windows Explorer, i make previews "in project" from the Family Browser, and i dont want to delete it or shrink it down... Then it gets annoying when youre trying to see the context of how the family interacts with the Face its hosted too. A bunch of the stuff on ARCAT / Seek has it either shrunk way down, hidden in every view, or flipped inside out, or something. Annoys me.

      But it doesnt bother me in the least. <shrug>
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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        #4
        It won't let you if you start a family from the template, but if you rename the template from RFT to RFA, you can then make edits like this. When done you can rename back to RFT and have (as far as I can tell) a perfectly good template file again.

        If I wasn't already looking at a number of other template cleanup items, like hidden lines rather than wire frame, scales that makes sense for the object, a white Default material rather than butt ugly putty, etc. I wouldn't probably bother. but it seems like a good opportunity, as long as the slab doesn't do some hidden super secret thing, ala the magic line in a section head, for example.

        Gordon
        Pragmatic Praxis

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          #5
          You cant Cut Geometry the Face, if the Face isnt there, im guessing. Thats what i meant by "you cant." If i cant interact with the face, theres no point doing it.

          Besides, i got rid of all the erroneous materials and line styles last year.
          Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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            #6
            Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. And in this case, the family is a door leaf, which needs to be face based so it can move with a Ref Line, but it never needs to cut anything. So likely I am not gonna get bit later if I go down this road. At least on this family.

            Gordon
            Pragmatic Praxis

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              #7
              Why not just Unhosted Work Plane Based then? Why monkey with face at all?
              Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                #8
                Um, habit? Don't shine a light on my silliness! Will give it a whirl, since I am rethinking all sorts of kruft that has snuck into my doors over the last 5 years.

                Thanks!
                Gordon
                Pragmatic Praxis

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                  #9
                  As i migrate everything in preperation for 2013, the changes im making to my family templates are:

                  Dims- Suppress zeros and spaces. I never do it in there, and then i do it every time i make a family, LOL.
                  Scales- Making them way bigger so the constraints dont clutter.

                  I cleared out mats, line styles, and object styles last year.
                  Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                    #10
                    Yep, very similar lists. I also switched all dims to using dots instead of ticks, just to further cut down on clutter.

                    Now if they would just leave all that line pattern, material and line weight stuff alone when you Edit Family, rather than replacing it with the lousy OOTB crap, I would be happy. Ish.

                    Gordon
                    Pragmatic Praxis

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