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    How i can make this window parametric ?

    Hi everyone in the forum , this window i want to know how i can make it parametric
    thanks
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    #2
    You may want to brush up on your geometry, algebra and trig... then get your constraints functioning... then model the elements. We cant do everything for you.
    -Alex Cunningham

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      #3
      Originally posted by Alex Cunningham View Post
      You may want to brush up on your geometry, algebra and trig... then get your constraints functioning... then model the elements. We cant do everything for you.
      Well, not for free, anyway. :thumbsup:
      Dan

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        #4
        the problem not concerning about free, the problem concerning the challenge that revit represent in time wasting, i hate the families that need many formulas, especially if it is trigonometry because when you reach this stage forgot your job
        to make just one component i intended deliberately to forgot comparing but this one i will compare. i can scale any window in archicad or 3d max in one miute to make this stretching in height or width in revit i need to make it parametric to make it paramteric i need to search on google on math to get ridiculous formulas that may fail in the end ( backing to school forgot the job and my boss then come ask me like this :
        Boss : Where is the work of yours ?
        Ahmed: i am justing creating one window you know i am using revit.
        Boss : I do not care whether you are using revit if you did not submit the work by today you are dismissed.
        Ahmed: Oh no i will then use autocad , oh no this is nightmare can i produce simple rectangular window ??
        Boss : No our client want this type of window.
        Ahmed : I will make this window once 1.20m *1.5m height
        Boss : Oh i changed my opinion i want to make the window 1.50m * .50 m
        Ahmed: What O_o ?? i wasted decent time to make this windows in revit.
        Boss : Do not argue with me if you are not happy with revit then use your old programme archicad or build it in 3d studio max i do not care.
        The nature of work require not to waste time on trignomtery please understand that i want to stretch width without message tha tell me i have to delete the type of family when changing values.

        I hope you understand my pain, i still love revit but i hate this kind of failings and wasting times.
        even if you told me that you will make it once and then use it in other projects that is not the case because every project can take another different total shape.
        Thanks

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          #5
          Well, the flip side to that is once you get the family to work, it's done. No need to stretch it. No need to make a new one. No need to "waste more time". It's done, ready to use in a billion projects. So, in the long run, it's just as fast, if not faster.

          The problem is, taking the time to do it correct in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I feel your pain. I know where you are coming from, although if my boss told me I'd be dismissed because I had to take the time to create a window, I'd tell him where to go stick it. :thumbsup:
          Dan

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            #6
            Umm....no offense...but look at the word Parametric....Metric is in there, a type of math...So in order for a family to be parametric it has to solve some kind of calculation for the end result to be correct. You got yourself a fun one there where you have two different radius on the arch instead of one.

            Personally..with that type of window I would build it to the specs I want it to be and not be parametric...just because I was good at math doesn't mean I want to spend hours working on calcs for something that probably won't get modified very often.

            By the way, you mention ArchiCAD....have you actually created your own components in GPL? There is a lot of math there too unless you create a non-parametric component.
            Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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              #7
              Michae Patrick , to be honest with you and answer your question about archicad when you make any window inside this programme and save it whole as one object you can change its width and height (there is no need fro GPL in window or door type) yeah it will be stretched in archicad along with mullions it is kind of rescale but with values you type in.
              i do not care when value of mullion change because anyway we do not measure in elevation how length mullion is we meaure the whole window width only.
              I hope you got my intend.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ahmed_hassan View Post
                the problem not concerning about free, the problem concerning the challenge that revit represent in time wasting, i hate the families that need many formulas, especially if it is trigonometry because when you reach this stage forgot your job
                to make just one component i intended deliberately to forgot comparing but this one i will compare. i can scale any window in archicad or 3d max in one miute to make this stretching in height or width in revit i need to make it parametric to make it paramteric i need to search on google on math to get ridiculous formulas that may fail in the end ( backing to school forgot the job and my boss then come ask me like this :
                Boss : Where is the work of yours ?
                Ahmed: i am justing creating one window you know i am using revit.
                Boss : I do not care whether you are using revit if you did not submit the work by today you are dismissed.
                Ahmed: Oh no i will then use autocad , oh no this is nightmare can i produce simple rectangular window ??
                Boss : No our client want this type of window.
                Ahmed : I will make this window once 1.20m *1.5m height
                Boss : Oh i changed my opinion i want to make the window 1.50m * .50 m
                Ahmed: What O_o ?? i wasted decent time to make this windows in revit.
                Boss : Do not argue with me if you are not happy with revit then use your old programme archicad or build it in 3d studio max i do not care.
                The nature of work require not to waste time on trignomtery please understand that i want to stretch width without message tha tell me i have to delete the type of family when changing values.

                I hope you understand my pain, i still love revit but i hate this kind of failings and wasting times.
                even if you told me that you will make it once and then use it in other projects that is not the case because every project can take another different total shape.
                Thanks
                As a former ArchiCAD Modeler and Production worker, and a former AutoCAD Modeler and Production Worker, i am CERTAIN youre not REALLY trying to say that Revit costs you more time in the long run, are you? And if so, it couldnt have anything to do with the fact that- against all of our advice- you jumped right in with no real training, no real implementation, and no real anything, before trying to get billable again.... Right?

                Im just checking, because having actually done it (in all of the platforms you mention as easier, PLUS revit, and having done it all in firms that had NO implementation support or BIM management), i can say (with certainly) that making such a claim would be... laughable.
                Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                  #9
                  Nope Aaron, in the long run revit win based on my experience. I am suggesting that autodesk add the feature of rescaling in x or Y the whole component regarding of the values like mullions will be changed. if anyone is active and have extra time he can search for trignometry to make this kind of 4 arches.
                  but i am lazy and do not have time to make this kind of ridiculous formulas plus i do not know if i will success on this trignomtry formulas or not so in the end this type of paramteric window is not happy with me.
                  Other than else i am happy with revit.
                  i hope you got my intend.
                  Last edited by ahmed_hassan; January 31, 2012, 10:39 PM.

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                    #10
                    Actually Revit will attempt to adjust a family by width and length values alone. Even what you've shown in the image...you are just missing the W x H dimensions. That said, it will break...

                    Constraining arc's is not an easy endeavor because Revit is really constraining them (endpoints) via x and y positioning. The reason for the hinting at trigonometry is that mathematically you can control the arc's correctly assuming you lock down the end points of the arc. Create a solid extrusion and draw in your shape. As soon as a dimension and parameter are involved turn on the Automatic Sketch Dimensions (ASD) (vis Visibility/Graphics) to see what Revit is doing. If you can manage these assumptions with your own constraints you'll be on your way. See the image...

                    The arc is two separate segments so the ASD's are showing 0 length dimensions for the endpoints and the reference planes they are on.

                    Posts I've written about ASD's, One, Two and Three.
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                    Last edited by Steve_Stafford; January 31, 2012, 11:53 PM.

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