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    Color Fill Legend Catch-22?

    I'm doing Color fill plans for a client and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to display things the way they want to see them.
    I've got a Department number parameter and a Department Name.
    The client wants to see just the number on the plans (Tag), but they want to see both the name and number in the Legend.
    A Color Fill Legend shows you the field used to do the color coding and only allows one field, so I'm going to have to have a third parameter that will be the concatenated Number-Name.
    Here comes the Catch-22. I thought I'd be able to do this with a Key Schedule:
    Number; Name; Number-Name
    I'll have to fill it out manually, but it's pretty static info, so I can live with that.
    The problem is that in order for the Number to show up in the Tag, it MUST be a Shared Parameter.
    In the Key Schedule, it CANNOT be a Shared Parameter

    If it was the other way around, I could add both fields in the Tag, but I need the Legend to combine them.
    Any ideas?
    Last edited by DaveP; November 22, 2013, 04:42 PM. Reason: typo
    Dave Plumb
    BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

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    #2
    Is the color defined by one or the other? Typically you'd show a common color for a common department? You can still show a room tag that only shows one value or the other even if a color fill is applied using a different criteria. If you combine number and name won't you end up with a unique color for every room?

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      #3
      Can you just add an invisible parameter to your tag & rooms of Number-Name? Your legend would show what you want and your tag could show just the number.

      I haven't tried this so no clue if it would work.
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        #4
        Why not just set up a schedule with both the Name and Number (or just whichever one you arent using in the Color Fill Legend) and set the formatting to be identical to the color fill legend text? Stands to reason if one schedule grows, the legend will too (if you add another department or room).

        No need to reinvent the wheel, just turn the gridlines off on the schedule and set them next to each other. Its no more manual than messing with parameters and concatenation.
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          #5
          Thanks guys. Good ideas, all.
          I think I 'm still out of luck, though.
          I'd thought about stacking a Legend and a Schedule, but this is for Area Plans for a hospital and there will probably be 80 or 90 sheets. Which means 80 or 90 Schedules. And since the Legend only shows the Used Departments, it would be tough to Filter them.
          These are Departments I'm color coding by (technically, Cost Centers, but who cares). It's just that the Department has both a name and a number, and the only way I can think of to make sure they stay in synch is with a Key Schedule.

          I thought I had uploaded an image before, but I guess it didn't make it:
          Departments.PNG

          The reason I'm trying so hard here is that we've been maintaining all this stuff in a 12-year-old version of AutoCAD MAP and I really, really, really want to get it into Revit.
          That's why I was asking about Room Sep lines in this post

          Thanks again!
          Dave Plumb
          BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

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            #6
            Well, you could also add a shared instance text parameter to the rooms and create a schedule with department, number and number-department (being the instance based shared text parameter). Same effect as the Key Schedule, same level of manual handling. This custom parameter can be used in the tag AND in the Color Legend.
            Last edited by mdradvies; January 26, 2012, 09:04 PM.
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              #7
              Unless you need the department name as a stand alone value too, you could (instead of adding a 3rd parameter) add the department number as a prefix to the department name.

              Number = 01
              Name = 01 - Dep. Name X

              Would still require some manual coordination, but at least you'll only have to type the names once...

              I've also tried to use only the Name (01 - Dep. Name X), since I figured that it would be possible to just mask out everything but the "01" in the tag family... But neither masking regions, filled regions, or even nested annotations seems to be able to mask out the label... Doh.
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                #8
                I think I've got something I can live with.
                I still wish I could add another field to the Legend, but this should work. Just not as fool-proof as I'd like it to be.
                I have one parameter that is the Cost Center (I had tried to simplify things in the first post & called it Department) and another field called CCNameNum.
                "Cost Center" is a Shared parameter and is used in the Tag.
                "CCNameNum" has both the Cost Center Name and Number. It's just a Text filed - nothing automatic "CCNameNum" is used by the Color Scheme.

                The problem with this scheme is that you could very easily change the Cost Center by editing the Tag on the plan which would make the CCNameNum not match.

                To get around this, I made a schedule that has only those two fields. First sorted by Cost Center, then sorted by CCNameNum.
                I Unchecked Itemized every instance and added a blank line between rows.
                Like this:
                CCNames.PNG
                I still have to rely on someone actually DOING the check, but now you can see very quickly if the Name and Number are out of sync. If anything has two rows, one of them is wrong.
                Whew!

                Oh, yeah. and to find out which one is out of sync, you re-check Itemize every instance and you can see which one it is. Then you just use the drop-down to correct it, recheck Itemize, and go.
                Last edited by DaveP; January 27, 2012, 04:10 PM.
                Dave Plumb
                BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

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