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    I am relatively new to Revit Structure (translation - the company bought it 5 years ago but is just now getting serious about it's use.) We did the basic training class and are sort of on our own now.
    I am looking for a good reference manual / training guide that deals specifically with creating families. I'd appreciate anyone's opinion. For example, I am working on a building which requires double pitched k-series joists. I was told to start with a double pitched truss and revise it, but the constraints seem to stop me from whatever changes I want to make. I am not very eperienced with family creation, so I probably just don't know what information to change to make it work. If you have any good websites that provide families to download, I would appreciate that as well.

    Thanks!
    Jan

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    First off, welcome to the forum Jan!

    Second, you're well placed to pose such a query - no real need to go buying books - but trusses might be a bit of big first step.

    Personally, I've had limited experience with them (being of the architectural Revit user variant) - but the best way I found to understand them was to reverse engineer one of the default families, so you get the hang of which component type does what, then once you've got that established, work yours up in an iterative process - adding one element at a time, and testing as you go.

    Okay, so not the most insightful of help, but family creation is kind of like that, in that you only truly discover their functionality through exposure to the family editor. Start small I say, working through each "tool" function one at a time (ie. a length parameter, then an angle parameter, then a parameter driven by formula, etc) then you'll soon get the hang of it.

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      #3
      Jan, Welcome to the forum!

      For the double pitched joist, it really depends on if your span is always the same. If so, I would recommend a "Complex Beam and Joist Family" after looking at another joist as snowy said. If you really want to make a truss family, it may be worth a tutorial to show you how to do it.

      Since you're pretty new to revit, I would recommend just going to au.autodesk.com and registering (it's free) and clicking Virtual classes and searching for Family Creation or something along those lines. I'm pretty sure that you can see all the years of AU videos, and even some handouts to study/look over.
      Adam Hutchinson
      Engineer in Training
      Integrus Architecture, P.S.

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        #4
        First ask your self if you need a "parametric" truss. If the answer is yes then you will need to brush up how to constrain families. There is a ton of this on RFO. "Ben-May" or "markb" are the real experts on trusses. Do a search on the forum and look for posts by those members.
        -Alex Cunningham

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          #5
          I can recommend Lynda.com Revit training done by Paul Aubin. He has a specific course on Revit Families that I've seen and would highly recommend.
          Erik Snell, P.E.
          Factory Worker (Principal User Experience Designer)
          I am an Autodesk employee and the opinions or commentary I provide are my own and not necessarily that of Autodesk, Inc.

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            #6
            FYI guys, my previous Revit teacher, which works for a big steel joist, decking and steel members manufacturer - guess the company name - told me he was working on a complete double pitched joist family (even triple pitched) ! He told me to not work on such a thing because he would publish it in February if everything works fine!

            I'll share this super-family in here when I'll have it!
            Alexandre Cantin
            "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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              #7
              Originally posted by alexo4141 View Post
              FYI guys, my previous Revit teacher, which works for a big steel joist, decking and steel members manufacturer - guess the company name - told me he was working on a complete double pitched joist family (even triple pitched) ! He told me to not work on such a thing because he would publish it in February if everything works fine!

              I'll share this super-family in here when I'll have it!
              Any word on this super-family?

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                #8
                Not yet sorry... knowing the guy, I would guess he's creating it while thinking about the clash detection for MEP.
                Don't worry, I won't forget
                Alexandre Cantin
                "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by alexo4141 View Post
                  Don't worry, I won't forget
                  BETA testing it ... Tremendous amount of parameters though!
                  Alexandre Cantin
                  "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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                    #10
                    There are also the Live Sessions: Live Sessions - Archive
                    Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


                    chad
                    BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

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