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    Elevation Tags - Reference view & Elevation in one tag?

    Dumb question - I'm tagging my elevations and I am trying to get one tag to reference a view and the other to be a regular elevation. If I place the reference first I get a popup when I click the second one asking about what to reference or a new drafting view, but not a new elevation. If I place the elevation first I get no popup and can't figure out to make the second tag a reference... Is there a trick I'm missing somewhere?
    Last edited by cellophane; January 6, 2012, 08:38 PM.
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    chad
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    #2
    I'll assume I suck at explaining - see attached. I'd like the tag on the right to contain a new elevation facing the toilets and a reference view referencing the side wall of the men's room which is typical throughout the project.

    Thanks :beer:
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      #3
      You'll need two elevation tags - one for the model elevation and one for the reference elevation.
      Greg McDowell Jr
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        #4
        bugger.

        Thanks for the info.
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        chad
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          #5
          For what it is worth, the key is that either ALL the elevations associated with a symbol must reference other views, or none of them do. Which kinda makes sense, because the minute one wall isn't identical, the chances the others also aren't, or won't remain, goes way up.
          Also FWIW, I have moved away from Reference other View in general. Way too many times I have seen that used as a crutch in early DD to make the set look more complete, usually with teams or PMs that are new to Revit and feel like they are behind. Then, later in DD some of those spaces actually change, and yet the elevations are not updating because the innate value of Revit has been neutered. Maybe it gets caught in QA, but more often it is caught in CA. So for the most part I suggest people do live elevation views of all spaces, at least through DD. If all four walls of a space are truly identical at 50% CD or so then the views are consolidated.
          To aid in doing DD cost estimates, there will be a general note that says "Refer to such and such elevations for typical classroom conditions." Every elevation is included live, only one is fully detailed and noted. Honestly, I think you could take that all the way to construction but there is always resistance along the lines of "we have never done that", which is just a crock, and also "that wastes a lot of paper", which is more valid. But in the final accounting, I think we waste a LOT more paper including the finish plans in every set, even the one used by the steel framer 18 months before the finishes go in.

          Gordon
          Last edited by Gordon Price; January 10, 2012, 07:28 PM.
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            #6
            We have used the Sim elevations for things like ADA Toilets since the side wall with grab bars is the same everywhere and we rarely get into finishes. That is almost always handled between the owner & contractor.

            Thanks again :beer:
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            chad
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