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    Structural Connection Families - Hidden Lines

    I find more projects are benefiting from modelling steelwork connections in 3D, a limitation I am finding though is that connection families will not show hidden lines automatically in detail views

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    Currently the only workflow I am aware of is overidding the model geometry with linework to "reveal" the hidden lines

    I can see that if all lines were shown automatically that it could create too many lines very quickly, but it seems that we should be able to choose which lines show

    Am I missing another workflow? Or is this a wishlist item?
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    #2
    Originally posted by Ben-May View Post
    ...

    Currently the only workflow I am aware of is overidding the model geometry with linework to "reveal" the hidden lines
    ...

    Am I missing another workflow? Or is this a wishlist item?
    Apart from the Linework tool, there is also the "Show hidden lines" tool. Have you tried it? Beyond that, it's wishlist land.
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      #3
      Show hidden lines doesn't work on "Structural Connection" families, I have it logged with subscription support to confirm any other workflows as well
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        #4
        If you edit the family and change the category to generic model, the hidden lines should display.
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          #5
          But then you have to use multi-catagory schedules!! ahhh the little things

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            #6
            Originally posted by M20roxxers View Post
            But then you have to use multi-catagory schedules!! ahhh the little things
            Exaxctly, and then we cant yell at Architects who model everything as Generic Model families

            I never bothered to hassle Autodesk about it, but I guess with anything unless people log the problem it wont get priority
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              #7
              Have you tried locking symbolic lines into the family?
              Just put some symbolic hidden lines (set them to 25H for RBG)
              Lock them to your plate geometry within the family, and they should show up, also perhaps set the symbolic lines to only display at fine detail level, or even add a toggle to them so you can turn them off or on by a tickbox in the family....similar to say the symbolic lines used in the purlin family above/below centreline or central...open your purlin family up you will see what I mean.

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                #8
                It is ridiculous that structural connection families do not work for the Show Hidden Lines tool. Argg... But if I change the Structural Connection family to Generic Model, then, the Show Hidden Lines tool works. Then I need to change the Structural Connection family back to its correct category! The hidden lines will continue to show. But whose "brilliant" idea was it at the Factory to disable baseplates, anchor bolts, gusset plates, and similar, for this tool? This is precisely one of the cases when I want to use the tool!
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                  #9
                  I resorted to putting connection families as structural framing in our library. It joins, cuts and shows hidden lines. A sub category parameter schedules is as steel connections for filtering etc. Love having categories but their hard coded behavior sucks! Let me choose if it's cuttable or how it appears in view ranges. Let me use stairs and walls as loaded families.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Barrie View Post
                    ... Love having categories but their hard coded behavior sucks! Let me choose if it's cuttable or how it appears in view ranges...
                    Totally agree. The Factory has been deaf about all the comments about this.
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