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    #1

    [All Verticals] - Linework can modify schedules

    Applies to: - All Verticals

    New Feature / Problem:
    The ability to use the Linework tool on Schedules and Sheet Indexes on the sheet view.

    Why do you need this Feature / Why is it a Problem:
    In order to appease the folk that used Excel for scheduling and its ability to change the cell border lines, detail lines are added just to give more visual to a schedule. Such as adding a thick line below the Header text or to separate different groupings.

    But if the schedule changes, one must go back to that sheet and modify the detail lines.

    Workflow:
    Add Schedule to sheet, adjust columns, select linework tool and modify the line below headers to match outline, maybe use <invisible> to remove grid lines in header.

    Benefits:
    No more detail lines that don't follow the schedule when it has been modified. More visually pleasing schedules and sheet indexes that make the Principles happy with their Revit purchase.

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    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)
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    #2
    Wouldn't it be easier to just put this in the schedules as a formatting option...?
    Martijn de Riet
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      #3
      Yeah...that would work too...but since you cannot see the boundary and grid lines in the schedules until they are placed on sheets....
      Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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        #4
        Originally posted by MPwuzhere View Post
        Yeah...that would work too...but since you cannot see the boundary and grid lines in the schedules until they are placed on sheets....
        Then I would have/ask the formatting to be "as on sheet" when reviewing schedules - but since I'm pushing for us to avoid placing schedule data on drawings (and providing the information in .csv or .xls instead) it's not a big thing for me.

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          #5
          Originally posted by snowyweston View Post
          but since I'm pushing for us to avoid placing schedule data on drawings (and providing the information in .csv or .xls instead) it's not a big thing for me.
          Going back to the CAD way...noooo!

          Lot of clients are asking for them to be put on the sheets as letter size books somehow disappear more often than large rolls of paper.
          Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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            #6
            This entire thread scares me.

            If anyone here messes with detail lines on a sheet, over the issue of getting a thicker line like they used to have in Excel, i think we will all laugh at them.

            Regarding the CSV or TXT thing... I can make a case for it, if youre doing something smart like a Pivot Table / Lookup table in excel to move the data to zone specific sheets, or something. If not that, i cant think of a justifiable reason to do it. Export = automatically out of date = epic fail.
            Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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              #7
              Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
              This entire thread scares me.

              If anyone here messes with detail lines on a sheet, over the issue of getting a thicker line like they used to have in Excel, i think we will all laugh at them.
              Came from the contractor & owner...they wanted to see a thick line from the difference of furniture and equipment...but all in one schedule (which eliminated putting them in different schedules)

              Usually we just leave it to the outline and grid, but sometimes they ask for crazy stuff. Hence the reason linework would be nice...
              Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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                #8
                If a single line through the schedule seperates Furn and EQ, that tells me a Filter and two schedules paired next to (or above and below) one another could look like a single schedule (take the headers off the bottom one), and could have a thick line, and still be done faster than detail lines. More automated too.

                If the Furn and EQ are intermixed, then its senseless and ought to be seperated anyway. Sometimes people are asking for a sharper pencil, because they dont know you have a pen.
                Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                  #9
                  That's usually how I would do it... but when your talking about an equipment furniture schedule that is sorted out by rooms and then they want who is supplying the equipment to be separated there would be a heck of a lot of individual schedules instead of just one. Hence why the linework function would be very helpful.
                  Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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                    #10
                    I guess we agree to disagree. Sorted by Room, then EQ/Furn, then supplier sounds like a perfect case for parameter sorting and subgrouping in a schedule. You could have it place blank lines in between as well. Still worlds better than manually lineworking a schedule (yuck!). And if you manually lineworked a line, then ADDED a row, or DELETED a row, how does it know which line you lineworked? Above the cell? Below the cell? Even Excel does a lousy job of that.

                    Regarding the contractors requirements... If they wanted them broken out by rooms on 8.5x11 paper, i would still do all the parameter entry in revit, and export a giant EQ schedule. Then use a Pivot Table in excel to break it in to room by room via a throw away mail merge.

                    There are too many good tools out there to waste time lineworking schedules.

                    Just my two cents.
                    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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