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    Pipe Family

    Is there a way to make a single pipe family that will work as a vertical pipe, horizontal pipe, and a pipe in between (following risers of a stair). Right now I have a vertical pipe family and a horizontal pipe family, neither which work for the in between.

    Why can I not just create a generic model that has no Level reference... I should be able to copy a vertical and rotate it 90 deg and use it for a horizontal. And rotate another 45 deg and use it to match a stair slope....

    #2
    Hi,

    the answer is yes, it is possible. You may have a closer look at adaptive components.

    Here's a quick mockup, 4 clics to set. I f you set to plane and not to face, you have the ability to edit points after placement by TAB.

    Hope it helps.
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    Julien
    "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
    P. DAC
    Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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      #3
      Use Revit MEP and use the piping tools. OR if you don't have access and referring to structural pipes. Just do it as a Beam located on a vertical workplane. Beams will cleanup with elements on the same work plane.
      Chris Price
      Co Founder | BIM Manager | Product Designer | B.Arch (QUT)
      Xrev Revit API Add-ins | Revit Rants

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        #4
        I like the idea of using MEP although I can not figure out how to make the pipes match my slope. Does MEP not have a pick option if I already have the lines drawn how I want?

        I really would rather not use structural components because I think they clean up for crap when it comes to doing shop drawings as I am working on. My hope was to not have to use columns and beams because I would much rather just use a component that can be free of a host. When my railing and my post are the same size I really find it a hindrance to use two different family types when they are the same thing.

        I need a component that is like a detail component...I can flip rotate and do what ever all with 1 family type and not be constrained by planes and levels.


        It looks like I will be looking into AC sooner rather than later, but this needs to go out today...so this will probably not fly for this project.
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          #5
          Is there a reason why you're not using the railing tool? Does it not provide the flexibility you're looking to have?
          Developer at Anguleris BIMsmith Marketplace.
          Previously at Sumex Design for ARCAT.com

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            #6
            According to your pictures, are we talking about railings or pipes???
            Julien
            "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
            P. DAC
            Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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              #7
              The railing tool does not really give me the amount of control for connections and such that I would like to have. I am doing this for shop drawings not for CDs, so the railings are detailed to specific lengths, are cope particular ways, and interact with other pipes differently. The railing tool is alright for CDs but does not have the flexibility and ability to piece as doing it by hand does.

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                #8
                I went in an made a new pipe size to conform with my AISC sizes, but for some reason I can't select my size. All I get are whole number pipe sizes and not 1 1/2" like I made for this. (Using MEP piping)

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                  #9
                  So I am not sure what I am doing wrong in MEP. In the Mech settings I have defined my 1 1/2" pipe under welded, schedule 40, and carbon steel. The properties of my pipe are welded, schedule 40, and carbon steel. So why in my drop down to select pipe sizes am I unable to select my 1 1/2" pipe?
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gdoherty0102 View Post
                    The railing tool does not really give me the amount of control for connections and such that I would like to have. I am doing this for shop drawings not for CDs, so the railings are detailed to specific lengths, are cope particular ways, and interact with other pipes differently. The railing tool is alright for CDs but does not have the flexibility and ability to piece as doing it by hand does.
                    IMHO, you should model it the fastest way as possible (using railings) then detail it by hand with smart detail components on views. you will add weldings, bolts, nuts and so on.

                    Doing all this stuff in 3d can be done, but should it be ? saying that, I do detail in 3d, even with bolts; but I use pieces for what they are: a framing is a framing, a vertical "pipe" is a column, etc... I deal with cut, attach, cope, cut with ref planes. and manage to achieve this kind of stuff when needed.

                    For shop drawings, I use views. I will never put a dimension on a 3d view.

                    You should use a pipe for piping, not for railings. My 2 cts....
                    Julien
                    "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
                    P. DAC
                    Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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