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    Furniture in RCP

    quote below from one thread of AUGI to see if there's solution here:

    I know this question has been posted previously in the forum, however it appears the thread has been placed into the archive and I don't believe the question was ever fully answered.

    I am working with a linked architectural model and I am trying to layout lighting fixtures based on the locations of furniture in the model; but for the life of me i cannot get the furniture to show up in RCP regardless of what i set the underlay orientation to or the view ranges. I've made sure all the correct worksets are on, all the model categories are shown, yet nothing shows up. The furniture clearly shows up in plan, but as soon as I create an RCP the furniture is gone. Surely there is a simple solution to this problem as it is a common need among lighting designers.

    Thank you,
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    Go to VV (Visibility Graphics...)Revit links Tab>Display Settings> Click the button and click the "By Linked View" button, then chose one of the linked file's views that shows furniture, then you'll see the furniture (if it was on in the view you chose.
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      #3
      thanks JBZ, looks like it's the only (?) solution "workable", but sometimes arch model(s) don't have that kind of view(s), any other option(s)?
      Last edited by Ning Zhou; November 17, 2011, 07:12 PM.

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        #4
        I wouldn't presume that Arch models wouldn't have the necessary views; If an Arch puts in furniture they will have it on somewhere... Plus you could always open the copy of their file (the one on your systems) and setup a view to show what you need... Check the following documents out for more ideas on coordinating with others as they speak to this very issue... I think the issue you are having is simply a communication 'thing'...

        Go to: Jay B Zallan (JayZallan) on Scribd | Scribd and look for (then read ): "File Transfer Whitepaper" &
        "Revit to Revit File Linking" that should give you a lot to consider and facilitate in setting up new protocols for your internal as well as external teams...

        In BIM we cannot work in a vacuum and hope to succeed. We must communicate effectively with all teams involved in the built environment project.
        Last edited by JBZ; November 17, 2011, 07:28 PM.
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          #5
          wait a second, i just did a test, won't work even using linked view, because linked view must be the same type of view, in this case, ceiling view in which i want to add lighting fixture, this bring back to the original problem, Furniture in RCP? hope i'm wrong!

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            #6
            You are correct... Turns out that I have furniture families that have invisible lines embedded in them (that run from base REF Plane, up about 15 feet), so the furniture is made able to show up in RCP's. My bad...
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              #7
              Would the underlay option in the proporties not help here or am I over-simplifying things?
              Say something interesting....

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                #8
                Originally posted by JBZ View Post
                You are correct... Turns out that I have furniture families that have invisible lines embedded in them (that run from base REF Plane, up about 15 feet), so the furniture is made able to show up in RCP's. My bad...
                Invisible Lines or Symbolic Lines? Well, whatever line it is if it works, then this could be the way to go...
                “You can't think AutoCAD and run Revit.”
                -Anonymous

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                  #9
                  The underlay option in view properties allows you to, in halftone, display a view that includes the furniture you are trying to place lighting over. Might take some VG adjustments to get the view how you would like but it gets the job done and is a lot less work than editing all of your furniture families to include invisible/symbolic lines that extend past the cut plane, allowing them to be seen in RCP (you could also edit the family to have an annotative object in RCP view - but again this is more work than it's really worth unless you are planning on doing this for every project in the future - and then hey, why not get it done now right?) Best of luck!

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                    #10
                    OK Ready for another way??? Let's all take a breath and step away from the edge... This method suggests we work backwards :-)

                    1) Link in the Architects model to the RCP file
                    2) Open both the RCP and Plan views
                    3) Tile the views
                    4) Set the underlay in the Plan View to be it's own RCP
                    5) In the RCP view place the lights (At this step I don't even worry about exact location, just the correct lights, amounts, etc.)
                    6) Go to plan view and position fixtures according to needs
                    7) Send this issue to Autodesk with the difficulties spelled out and perhaps in the future we will see this remedied!!!
                    -J
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