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    Model Line Freak Out

    Revit Faithful,

    We inherited a file from a partenr firm and I cannot figure out what is going on with some of the model lines they have used to depict some things in th RCP.

    Essentially, I have model lines that are set to 9, the thickest line weight (they show as such in the Properties tab and I can see them in elevation and section as very fat lines). They appear on the plan however as light lines weights (1 or 2 it would seem). If I try to change the line weight to something else and hit apply the change flashes on screen for a second before the line reverts to the 1 or 2 visual setting. It is as if a secondary process is running on them, always shuntign them down to the lower level. These lines are not overridden as far as I can tell. The view itself has no overrides, the objects them selves have no overrides and the category has no overrides. As such I cannot tell what these lines are actually 'overridden to'. It only occurs in one part fo the plan, and only one ceartin ceiling surfaces, but there is no pattern to what or why those surfaces, nothing is out of plumb or whacky in any way with the surfaces. Even if I draw new model lines of any weight, they all pop down to the lighter representation. Also, I can pick to select the lines but I cannot window select them...even if I use a selection box around the entirety of the project it does not select the lines. I have the other firm looking into what they did, but they seemed just as puzzled as I was...so, I will ask the Forum.

    Does this ring any bells, and does any one have a solution?

    Thanks,
    Drew

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    Sounds like they might be "buried" in the Ceiling element they are drawn on, or--perhaps they need to be "rehosted" to a workplane or face?
    i.e. Maybe they are drawn on the wrong face or workplane that was current when they were initially placed?

    What happens if you draw the same line style off to the side where no ceiling elements are? Do they look correct? ( Also, FWIW 9 is not the heaviest weight, 16 is. )

    Is there a View Template applied to the view? Any Design Options? Any Phase settings/overrides? Did you check Object Styles?
    Cliff B. Collins
    Registered Architect
    The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
    Autodesk Expert Elite

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      #3
      Model Line Freak Out - SOLVED

      Cliff,

      It is not burried in the ceiling...for better or worse. If I use the same face as a host and draw where there is no ceiling I get the same results. As for 9...it is the highest they used

      I did a little test however and it came down to...wait for it...View Range.

      Here is the scenario:
      Cut Plan: 7'-6" from Level 1
      Top: 10'-0" from Level 1
      View Depth: 25'-0" from Level 1

      Most fo the ceilings on the first floor are below 10' and the model line work shows up correct there. The area of the plan where the issue was has ceilings at 13'-0". In other words within the View Depth but not within the Primary Range (as defined by the Cut Plane and Top numbers). As soon as I changed the Top to encompass all the ceiling work I saw the model lines correctly. So here is the take away:

      Model Lines will show up as a thin lines if they are outside of your Primary Range but within your View Depth.

      Thanks,
      Drew
      Last edited by The Dropper; November 16, 2011, 08:17 PM. Reason: Double Cliff

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        #4
        Good one. Glad you figured it out. View Depth strikes again........
        Cliff B. Collins
        Registered Architect
        The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
        Autodesk Expert Elite

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