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    Complex wall construction method needed

    Hello friends,
    Does anybody know how to build a wall like in the image attached, any more simple way than by face?

    Project1.jpg

    #2
    Depends on a number of variables.
    Is this section typical at the perimeter i.e a strip window/spandrel that has no 'jamb' condition?
    What is the exterior cladding/construction other than just the inside and outside face?
    Just a couple of suggestions that you can assess based on the two questions above.
    You could do the returns on the wall as integral sweeps, top and bottom.
    The window surround (head, sill, jamb) could be included as part of the window family.

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      #3
      Actually, in this case--Wall by Face of Mass is probably the simplest and fastest solution. It COULD be done with other methods--such as the use of Voids,
      Sweeps to create the "recessed cant" profile--but hosting the windows might be a problem.

      You could also use a ceiling or roof for the angled/canted portion, and another small vertical wall to host the windows. Are the windows individual/punched openings or a ribbon/continuous layout?

      You could build a single very thick wall, and try cutting it with a void for the canted/sloped head and sill.

      If the windows are punched/individual units, you could "nest" in the head and sill elements into the window family. This would require an "inner wall" offset from the floor to the sill to host the windows, and an "outer wall" for the base and top portions. Lots of work and hard to manage.

      I'd go for the Walls by Face of Mass.
      Cliff B. Collins
      Registered Architect
      The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
      Autodesk Expert Elite

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        #4
        yes, let's suppose this section lies on all over the perimeter one piece of wall and I need to put 3 - 4 windows on this wall. Speaking friendly I thought of creating a window family with voids to cut the host with shape shown and put it on a thick wall and then draw drywall by annotation lines, but it will be a fake structure-wise. I wonder if there is a proper way maybe some trick to make it work.

        the other trick I was thinking about is to model a mass and then put walls on it's faces - I think this is the most natural (Revitual) way

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          #5
          Originally posted by cliff collins View Post
          You could build a single very thick wall, and try cutting it with a void for the canted/sloped head and sill.
          This sounds like the easiest to me on first glance. You could eve Create the correct shaped void as part of the window family so the correct "cut"would happen as you place each window.
          Jeff Hanson
          Sr. Subject Matter Expert
          Autodesk, Revit - User Experience

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            #6
            See Jeff--

            We need that darn Tilt Wall Tool!!!!!!!!!! ( Sloped Wall Tool, or whatever you want to call it. )
            Cliff B. Collins
            Registered Architect
            The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
            Autodesk Expert Elite

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              #7
              I try to do that.. see attachment file if this is what you want.

              Complex wall.JPG

              Complex wall section.JPG

              Revit file:Complex wall.rvt
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                #8
                Very good job with sweeps and reveals, but perhaps you should use that wall style only at the portions of the exterior wall where the windows are located. Otherwise, as in your example, the section view shows the recessed part at any point along the wall, even in places where there are no windows, which will be incorrect. Well, but that is easy to fix. Very interesting solution. Rep for you!
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                  #9
                  wow man, it's just an excellent trick, I just examined your file. One thing was not clear - in the Project Browser under Families>Profiles you had your families named as t, c, and so on but in the wall properties in the Profiles application window you have these profiles as t:t, c:c did you apply some parameters with some formula also?

                  Thank you for your perfect answer once again

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by spotless View Post
                    wow man, it's just an excellent trick, I just examined your file. One thing was not clear - in the Project Browser under Families>Profiles you had your families named as t, c, and so on but in the wall properties in the Profiles application window you have these profiles as t:t, c:c did you apply some parameters with some formula also?

                    Thank you for your perfect answer once again
                    Hi bro, well upon reading your post. i tried to solve it.. as soon as i can.. that's why i just put t: for top c: for center and b: for bottom.. at first i think of putting some parameters on the profile.. this will be great when you are going to create some other type. but if not. just make it simple.. by putting the right dimension of what void or sweep that you need.. just create first a size of wall that you need. then draw your profile using detail line after that just copy/paste it in the family editor under profile template.. if you will look at the south view of my sample you can see the trace of detail line i use to generate the exact profile i need in the wall..

                    Complex wall setting.JPG

                    Then "t:t" the first letter will be the family name then the other "t" will be the type name, in this case i dnt have specified type that's why Revit automatically generate "t" as the type name.

                    types name.JPG
                    Last edited by engel_hg; November 5, 2011, 05:29 PM.
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