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    #1

    Sloped slab with band beam

    Hi,

    I have a project where the floor is sloping. The floor has slab and band beams (structural framing), both the same material. Unfortunately, I do not see the hidden line for the step in the soffit when the floor is sloped. I can see they are joined in section.
    I am assuming that because the dashed line representing the step in soffit is at an angle, the dashes 'merge' due to the point of view of the plan (hope that makes sense).
    Now i know i can use linework to override this, but the plan is split into 4 dependant views due to its size, and there are three of each dependant (one for the GA, one for Top Reo, and one for Bott Reo). So it would be quite a task to do linework for all those sheets.

    So, any ideas to get my linework to show?

    The other issue, with the sloping band beam, I cannot get the end of the sloped beam to be vertical, the ends are perpendicular to the top and bottom of the band beam

    I've attached a sample file if anyone would care to look.

    Thanks in advance.
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    #2
    Hi DD1, welcome in RFO.

    You may have faster answers with a little screen capture for linework issue, my 2 cts...I will look to your file later.

    About beam, you should try to cut the end with a reference plane (vertical) using cut tool.

    Extend the end, sketch a ref plane in cut view, cut tool, done.

    Caution, this works only if the material behavior of the beam family is not set to concrete (family property, you have to edit to check this).

    Another way would be to replace beams by slopped columns, so you will have control of how columns ends are made (look to column properties).

    see you later for linework.
    Julien
    "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
    P. DAC
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      #3
      I took a look at your file, just extend the slab boundary to the outter limit of the beam, it should work fine.
      Alexandre Cantin
      "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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        #4
        Thankyou both for your responses.

        Julien, at the moment, the band beams are concrete, so i will play around with that to see if I can get them to cut with reference plane.

        Alexandre, true, if I extend the slab boundary to the limits of the beam, the linework appears as it should.
        But unfortunately,I have a surface pattern applied to the floor (through a filter), so if I extend the floor to cover the beam, the surface pattern also covers the beam. So it solves one problem but creates another.
        I could use a filled region, but using the filter is much more effcient.

        Thanks,
        Last edited by DD1; October 30, 2011, 11:32 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jbenoit44 View Post
          Caution, this works only if the material behavior of the beam family is not set to concrete (family property, you have to edit to check this).
          Does changing the Structural Material Type in the family will change something except the fact that we can cut it with ref plane?

          It's a great way to get the beam to cut as long as it doesn't change all the structural behavior of the family...
          Alexandre Cantin
          "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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            #6
            Originally posted by DD1 View Post
            So, any ideas to get my linework to show?
            If you take a closer look at the highest side of the sloped beam, you'll see a difference of elevation. This is the reason why you dont see the hidden line (which is under this one).

            Hope this helps
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            Alexandre Cantin
            "BIM is happening now! Be part of it."

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              #7
              Alexandre, changing material type in family do change beam behavior, mainly the way they connect on columns, and how they act when using the beam connections setting (modify tab).
              The only correct way I've found at this time to play with concrete beams is to use ref planes as cutter, and use cut length in schedules.
              not perfect so far....but works most of the time.
              Julien
              "Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus!"
              P. DAC
              Follow me on Twitter @Jbenoit44 - Blog: http://aecuandme.wordpress.com/

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