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    Flip Control in a Generic Model Family?

    can this be done and if so, how?
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    #2
    Yes, by using the Control button on the Home Tab... This gives you access to 4 kinds of control:

    Double Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using the horizontal/vertical refplane SET TO ORIGIN as mirror axis.
    Single Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using both horizontal and vertical refplanes SET TO ORIGING as mirror axis.

    Mind the "set to origin". Each refplane in your family can be set to "Define Origin" in the properties of this refplane. You can only have one refplane vertical and horizontal set as origin. These define the way the flip works (among other things)
    Last edited by mdradvies; January 18, 2011, 11:53 PM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
      Yes, by using the Control button on the Home Tab... This gives you access to 4 kinds of control:

      Double Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using the horizontal/vertical refplane SET TO ORIGIN as mirror axis.
      Single Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using both horizontal and vertical refplanes SET TO ORIGING as mirror axis.

      Mind the "set to origin". Each refplane in your family can be set to "Define Origin" in the properties of this refplane. You can only have one refplane vertical and horizontal set as origin. These define the way the flip works (among other things)
      :thumbsup: for the info. I'm going to have to re process this in the morning as my brain has been at it for 13 hours and doesn't understand anymore. The "set to origin" confuses me and I'm only able to place flip controls in a plan view. I'm hoping that I can get one in an elevation view?? Be back tomorrow morning...
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        #4
        If you select the refplanes that are in the default template, there's a checkbox "defines origin". The intersection of the vertical and horizontal refplanes defining origin is sort of the 0,0,0-point for the family. You can reset the origin to any replane you want, but only ONE vertical and ONE horizontal. If you create a new refplane, and check Defines Origin in this one, the other one will automatically turn off.

        The refplane defining origin is the refplane the flip-control uses as mirror axis when flipping.

        I believe the flip-control in elevation is only available for face-based families...
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          #5
          Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
          If you select the refplanes that are in the default template, there's a checkbox "defines origin". The intersection of the vertical and horizontal refplanes defining origin is sort of the 0,0,0-point for the family. You can reset the origin to any replane you want, but only ONE vertical and ONE horizontal. If you create a new refplane, and check Defines Origin in this one, the other one will automatically turn off.

          The refplane defining origin is the refplane the flip-control uses as mirror axis when flipping.

          I believe the flip-control in elevation is only available for face-based families...
          I have a corner panel that looks like this

          I want to be able to use it at all 8 corners of a box shaped structure, like a Rubik's cube. How do I do that with a Generic Model family?
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            #6
            Maybe you could have the corner that has no vertical walls be at the intersection of the reference planes of the family
            Then just insert the flip controls and it should work
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              #7
              Including flip controls in the family is going to help, yes, to some extent, but you need more things. Making the family as a face-based model is essential, first. In the family, check "work-plane based" and un-check "always vertical" ; then in the project you can use "Edit work-plane" > Pick new and select faces to align to. So, you need a combination of all these things to be able to flip the family in all directions.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
                Including flip controls in the family is going to help, yes, to some extent, but you need more things. Making the family as a face-based model is essential, first. In the family, check "work-plane based" and un-check "always vertical" ; then in the project you can use "Edit work-plane" > Pick new and select faces to align to. So, you need a combination of all these things to be able to flip the family in all directions.
                you guys are GOOD! Work Plane-Based was the trick!!
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                  Yes, by using the Control button on the Home Tab... This gives you access to 4 kinds of control:

                  Double Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using the horizontal/vertical refplane SET TO ORIGIN as mirror axis.
                  Single Horizontal / Vertical: will mirror using both horizontal and vertical refplanes SET TO ORIGING as mirror axis.

                  Mind the "set to origin". Each refplane in your family can be set to "Define Origin" in the properties of this refplane. You can only have one refplane vertical and horizontal set as origin. These define the way the flip works (among other things)
                  where are these control buttons in Revit 2015? I have a Generic family that will act similar to a wall and I want to be able to mirror this family (left and right) along its vertical axis while in the project. Currently I can only get it to flip along its horizontal axis. And space bar just rotates the family which is not what I want.

                  any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by billiam View Post
                    where are these control buttons in Revit 2015? I have a Generic family that will act similar to a wall and I want to be able to mirror this family (left and right) along its vertical axis while in the project. Currently I can only get it to flip along its horizontal axis. And space bar just rotates the family which is not what I want.

                    any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
                    right here but you need to be in a plan view. Doesn't work from any other view AFAIK
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