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    Design Option?

    I've never used them, so I'm scared to do it in a project without knowing what I'm getting into.

    Basically, the owners of the ranch house want to see an alternative design for the master bath tub area. What am I in for if I do it with design options? Or, is it safer to just save it as another project and make the change?

    Edit** So, I read a little about them. How do I take parts of an existing model and turn them into a design option? Everything I've read is creating design options at the very beginning of the design process. What if it's already designed and you need to make what's existing an option as well as a new option?
    Last edited by dzatto; October 19, 2011, 01:47 AM.
    Dan

    #2
    I would use design options. There is a definite workflow that is conducive to success, but the situation you describe is what design options are made for.

    Take a look at the Help file for guidance - it is actually pretty good (I actually learned how to use DO's by reading the Help file). I would practice on a simple sample project first to make certain that it make sense before you start going to town on the live model. Plan ahead - think about your deliverables (what you need/want to show the client) and work backward from there - plan your sheets and the views you want to put on them. Keep the DO as simple as you possibly can. One other caution - do not try to make walls in options clean up with the main model at outside corners.

    Best Practices for Design Options - WikiHelp

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      #3
      Originally posted by dzatto View Post
      Edit** So, I read a little about them. How do I take parts of an existing model and turn them into a design option? Everything I've read is creating design options at the very beginning of the design process. What if it's already designed and you need to make what's existing an option as well as a new option?
      So, the Main Model is the part of the model that is not directly affected by any design option.
      The primary option is your "preferred" scenario - what you think they will choose, or what you want them to choose.
      The secondary option(s) - there can be more than one - represent the changes to the model. In your case, the secondary option would be represented by the proposed changes to the existing model. The primary option would be the things in the existing model that the secondary option changes. Again, the main model is the part of the thing not affected by either option.

      First, set up your views (add new ones to show the secondary option(s)), then in an existing view, use the add to option command to add the existing stuff that will be changed to the primary design option. Then go to one of the new views, change the VG on the design options tab to show the secondary option. Change the current design option to be the secondary one and the primary option will disappear. Model the stuff in the secondary option in that view. Clear as mud?

      Better to see it: Easy Revit (2009) -31- Design Options Tool - YouTube

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        #4
        Sort of. :laugh:

        Thanks for the wiki link. That didn't come up when I hovered over the DO tab and it F1.

        Ahh the video helped. Now I see how to add existing stuff to the DO. Thanks! Rep for you, sir. :thumbsup:
        Dan

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          #5
          Keep in mind there are some pitfalls when using DO's:
          - You can't undo it. There's no way to pull stuff out of a DO without deleting the entire DO. You can delete stuff out of an option but you can't take an element out of DO's entirely (making it free to edit in the Main Model)
          - You can't add stuff to another option once already placed on an option set. So let's say you have 2 options. Then your clients want to see a third option. Can't add that.

          Both of these should be adressed by Autodesk, but discussing unfinished features is for another time and place :laugh:

          Best practise for me:
          - Always create a "spare" option.
          - Always create a backup before starting just in case you screw up your entire model
          - Always add everything possibly involved to all options and start deleting and modifying from there. Not the other way around, cause once you placed something in option 1 but not in option 2 there's no way to correct that.

          Good luck!
          Last edited by mdradvies; October 19, 2011, 10:13 PM.
          Martijn de Riet
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            #6
            Not sure if this is what you were referring to but you can create additional options after the first few are created by selecting one of the options (the closest to what the next option will be makes the most sense) and choosing Duplicate in the Design Options dialog.
            Greg McDowell Jr
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              #7
              I mean you can't (last time I checked) have this workflow:

              - Wall -> Add to Option 1. Finish command.
              - Same wall -> Add to option 2 as well (in the same option set).
              Martijn de Riet
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                #8
                yeeaahhhh...clear as mud, my head hurts...i need another coffee :coffee: while i watch that video
                There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                  I mean you can't (last time I checked) have this workflow:

                  - Wall -> Add to Option 1. Finish command.
                  - Same wall -> Add to option 2 as well (in the same option set).
                  Can you not copy and paste between DOs?

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                    #10
                    Sure you can, i do it all the time. Same with getting things back in Main Model. Copy them, delete them, Finish Editing Option, Paste back in Main Model. Things copy and paste around pretty easily.

                    In fact, i recommend the opposite: Only put the bare minimum that you will need, in the Options. And use more Option Sets, than "all encompassing" options. Why? DO's and Worksharing gets screwy. It negates element borrowing, since it considers the entire Option one element. So only one player per design option, at a time.

                    The big hang ups with DO's are: Rooms and boundaries. Always take the rooms, and make sure you also get all the boundaries. Otherwise Area conflicts ensue. Revit with unhappy areas = Revit running slow.

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