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    Desktop vs Laptop

    Hi,

    Currently have e a desktop computer but considering getting a laptop. The specs of both below.
    On paper the Laptop specs are better than the desktop. Any comments?


    Also, just wondering if there is a difference in using a Laptop as a work station rather than a Desktop – performance wise….or is that just an old ‘wives tale’ that Laptops might get sluggish during a full days of work?

    The current desktop system is :
    I7-7700 3.60GhZ
    32GB RAM DDR4 1200MHz
    GTX1080 graphics card
    SSD

    The proposed laptop:
    i7-11800H
    3840x2160 IPS
    RTX 3070Q
    1TB SSD
    32GB RAM DDR4-3200,

    Thanks
    J

    #2
    Laptops make more noise.

    The 11800H is about 15-20% faster than the 7700k.
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      #3
      In your situation with the hardware listed the laptop will outperform the desktop. Comparing current generation desktop vs current gen laptop; the desktop will always be faster and more quiet if configured correctly. If you do not have a reason/need for the laptop, I would get a desktop for work and a nice laptop for personal tasks outside of Revit. If you need to work on the go then I get the need for a laptop and the one listed has good specs. Be mindful of the cooling though. Slim designs look great but can not cool as good as bulkier laptops so you never really realize the clock speeds advertised for long periods.

      Now for nerd talk....

      I have seen a myth mentioned by a system manufacturer stating that a Dell/HP laptop or desktop will get slower near the end of the day because of poor cooling. That is not accurate. If the desktop/laptop does not have proper cooling then it will run slow the moment it is pushed harder than it can cool. That could be 5mins into work or 1hr into your work, then once you stop what you are doing it cools to proper temp and you get your performance back until you push it harder than it can cool.

      EVERY laptop is battling cooling but that is not to say they do not work great. Especially for Revit that generally does not tax the CPU hard. Some cool better than others. Technically even if you use liquid metal compound on a mobile CPU (directly on the die since mobile) and the CPU never overheats, the motherboard VRM and power delivery circuits will impose throttling due to their temps.

      Throttling clock speeds back is not the same as overheating either, it is a tool in order to prevent over heating. There is a point where the clock speeds are pulled back so much that you can say it is overheating but the two are not the same.

      The nice things about desktops is the raw performance you can get over a laptop as well as standardized hardware if purchasing from certain manufacturers. Some like Dell/HP/etc use proprietary hardware at times, not always.

      Well, I can go on and on about this lol. Laptops are great, they have a purpose but if you do not need one, get the desktop.
      Remis Computer Solutions
      Las Vegas, NV
      www.remiscs.com

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        #4
        Thanks mate,

        Appreciate your answer...very extensive
        We have had quite a lot of work on lately and have been working from home during evenings etc using my 'home' desktop which is not as good as the one listed above.
        Also, the consideration for a Laptop was in case we get another 'scare' we have to work from home again.

        I totally see the benefit of a Desktop - also imagine if you spend the same amount on a desktop as you would for a laptop....you would get quite a good desktop

        JH

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          #5


          Most components in a desktop computer can be removed and replaced, and the space in the box allows cables and components to be added. Unlike computers, the only parts that can be replaced in laptops are the memory card and the hard drive. If you want to upgrade other components, usually the only solution is to change the laptop.

          F.

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            #6
            I bought a Lenovo Legion 5 (which is a gaming laptop) not to long ago and have been working remotely on that for a few months now. It is an interesting setup, where I have the laptop sitting on a desk at a clients office and I use Remote Desktop over VPN to log into that from home. This way I can get to their network and don't use VPN to access the workshared model, which is 🤮 as you should know.

            It uses a i7 10750H running at 5Ghz (why I bought this one) and has a RTC 2060 and 32Gb upgraded memory (was 16 when I bought it).

            It works great and so far I have no issues even on a large model (didn't check lately, but running close to 700 Mb I think). If it makes a lot of noise, no clue, it is in an office at the other side of the city, might need to ask the guy sitting at the desk next my the laptop :-). To be honest I hardly notice that it is a laptop and that I work with Remote Desktop.
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              #7
              You could spend around 2K upgrading that current PC you have and it would be way better than a laptop. A new EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW card would cost you about 1200. A new motherboard, power supply, and chipset around 800 bucks. That PC would blow any laptop under 7K right out of the water.

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                #8
                Personally i would just switch out the motherboard and CPU for something new.
                Upgrading the 1080 to a 3080 Ti won't upgrade the Revit experience that much.

                I would advise to get a Intel Core i7 12700K with a mid range Z690 motherboard.
                Depending on the budget you can go either to DDR4 or DDR5.

                (Or wait for the next gen CPUs to arrive)
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