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    Hello everyone;

    this is not a problem but a question, I am working on a project that needs to have on each sheet the signature of the chief architect which is a jpg image.

    Currently I do it using a LEGEND with the image which I simply insert in each sheet, this is fine because I have only one LEGEND which I insert every time I need it, but as you all know when you insert multiple views with different scales the phrase "As indicated" appears in the title-block, FWIW I know how to insert a dummy scale which can be modified manually but I don't want to do that; I have done it before in other projects with the option insert image and obviously this does not change the scale but on the contrary the result is that I have multiple images loaded in the project, my question is how would you insert this type of images?, or which is the best technique?, what are you thoughts? , many thanks

    Kind regards
    Last edited by Andres Franco; June 23, 2021, 02:44 PM.
    Andres Franco - Architect - BIM Coordinator
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    #2
    Insert it in the titleblock family? Maybe show/hide the jpg with parameter.

    Or you can insert images directly to a sheet

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      #3
      Hi,

      We use a nested vector signature family in the title block. I think it's worth taking the time to create a vector signature if possible.

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        #4
        I agree, add it to the titleblock
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          #5
          Originally posted by infeeeee View Post
          Insert it in the titleblock family? Maybe show/hide the jpg with parameter.

          Or you can insert images directly to a sheet
          hi and thanks for your reply, as I've already said: I do know that is possible to insert images in title blocks, I'm already doing that, that's not an issue, my question is more file size related and effectiveness, as already mentioned having a Legend let me put the image in several views with no mayor trouble than the scale as mentioned in my post, having a image inserted in the title block didn't work either since the signature in not always placed at the same location, but that can be discussed with the Chief Architect.

          In the other side having a vector seems to be a good idea i'll give it a try.

          Thanks guys
          Andres Franco - Architect - BIM Coordinator
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            #6
            Those also arent your only options, frankly.

            1. I would NEVER do this with actual views (even Legends), in the project. Yuck. That means every time someone makes a new sheet, they also have to remember to place the legend view there? Thats brutal. And then if they need to print with the stamps off, they have to delete (or hide) the stamp in the Legend View? Also yuck.

            2. The issue of Raster vs Vector isnt really important, for the discussion. It doesnt *really* matter (jmho), its just a matter of preference. Frankly, in most firms that i work with, they have more stamps that need to be prepared and states to prepare them in, that its not worth the time vectorizing them. I just use an image. BUT:

            3. As mentioned in number 1, there are SEVERAL better setups than what you are comparing:

            3a. Image (or Vector) in a Generic Annotation, placed on the Sheets (without a parent view). If i was going to do this, it would be a GA (with the image), in ANOTHER GA (the Parent), placed on the sheet. The reason being you want the image "wrapped" in a GA so you can toggle the visibility of the GA wrapping the image.
            3b. Image (or Vector) in a Generic Annotation (Shared), placed in the Titleblock Components with a Yes/No Parameter for Visibility (what we do). Only requires one level of GA since the Titleblock is the other Parent GA, and it generally behaves way better since every sheet needs a titleblocks anyway.
            3c. Image (or Vector) in a Generic Annotation, placed in a Legend View, thats still manually dragged on to every sheet.

            I have no idea WHY you would do 3c, but its still better than what you have now, since at least you can use the GA to control the Stamps visibility. But i would do number 2. If (for some reason) i didnt want to do number 2, i would do number 1.
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              #7
              Hello Aaron and many thanks for your detailed answer, I'm agree that using legends is not very classy 😂, I've already quit from using that and I was placing the stamp manually in each sheet, and I'm also agree with you is very slow and as mentioned changes the scale which is not what I want (and I guess no one wants it)

              I guess I will continue doing it as I have been doing so far, I mean, putting the image manually each time, since the signature can vary from place to place due to space limitations on each sheet.
              Thanks again to you all for your time, best regards
              Andres Franco - Architect - BIM Coordinator
              Revit Certified Professional - AutoCAD Certified Professional
              "I became insane, with long intervals of horribly sanity"
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                #8
                (I think you've gotten good tips for how to accomplish this in Revit, so this response is just to record a completely different alternative.)

                I am not a fan of having arch/engineer stamps/signatures in Revit. Unless you want to provide those to others that could potentially use/abuse them, those would have to be removed/purged prior to sending electronic models out.

                Instead, I prefer to add them as a stamp in Bluebeam or Acrobat (can be done with a single command) and then flattened. If you want to go one step further, you can actually create an electronic signature/certificate (I have found this level of effort to be less satisfactory as the recipient has to have the ability to print the "signature" on their end). While the basic PDF stamp is not foolproof, they'd have to go to more effort to abuse it.

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                  #9
                  I've heard that argument a lot, but honestly i dont think that would really be a barrier to entry for a bad actor with nefarious intent. Any modern phone can take a picture at a high enough resolution to paste in to a drawing, if someone truly wants to step over the line to abuse/forge/inappropriately use someone else's licensure stamp. They can also use snipping tool, as far as that goes.

                  IMVHO the people that are that concerned about that aspect, should only be wet signing and hand embossing their documents, as thats why we have physical stamps and signatures, anyway.

                  Besides, if a bad actor wanted to do it, its EASIER to do it in PDF format, than it is in Revit format. They could always just cut and paste from a stamped PDF, regardless. (Thats true no matter how the stamp is applied).

                  Im patiently waiting for the day when the old school stamps and signatures go away, because right now... They arent really protecting squat. LOL.
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                    #10
                    An architect told me that his licensing requirements (his state) forbid putting electronic versions of his stamp or signature on drawings. Just one guys story and I took him at his word. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it is true or that it isn't elsewhere. I don't recall where he is/was practicing.

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