Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Keynote Legend - not catching all notes on sheet

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Keynote Legend - not catching all notes on sheet

    I've had an issue with a smaller project, where a sheet is holding both Plan and RCP views.
    The Keynote legend (filtering by sheet) is picking up all the notes in the PLAN views, but missing the notes placed in the RCP.

    I've resolved it by changing the VT for the RCPs to drop the cutplane down below 4'-0", to get the notes 'into the zone' that the Plan views are in, and that triggers the Keynote legend to add them in, but that may not be the best solution, since this could alter RCP graphics in undesirable ways.

    Does anyone know what settings in the Keynotes/Legend defines the 'view range' for these to read? I'd rather adjust THAT and leave my RCP VTs alone....

    #2
    Is that consistent to other sheets? The keynote schedule has always shown anything that is tagged, but occasionally breaks, and certain keynotes wont' show up. Every time I've fixed it simply by removing and replacing the schedule from the sheet.
    Julie Kidder
    Architect + BIM Director
    Hartman + Majewski Design Group

    Comment


      #3
      Hi Nancy,
      I agree with Julie. Are you saying that you've been able to tag the elements in the RCP (and see those tags) but the legend doesn't reflect that? It might also help to know what you are tagging (element, material, or user keynote).
      Glynnis Patterson, Architect
      www.ideatesoftware.com

      Comment


        #4
        Thanks Julie and Glynnis, we did try removing both the legend AND the view and replacing them, no dice.
        Also testing to see if it was a difference between Element/User note - not a factor.
        I also had the user add the SAME missing keynotes to one of the PLAN views, and the Keynote Legend picked those up, just fine, so it narrowed my suspicion that it was the RCP condition that it was 'ignoring'.

        Adjusting the view range/cutplane of the RCP down to within the same range as the Plans DID THE TRICK - but I'm not thrilled with having to make that adjustment to the RCP VTs.

        Comment


          #5
          Have you tried recreating the view, either using Duplicate With Detailing or a straight Duplicate View, and seeing what happens?
          Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


          chad
          BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

          Comment


            #6
            Yes, we did try that. I shoulda mentioned that in my previous response. I generally follow a basic troubleshooting tree: 2 initial tests, to see if the VIEW is the issue/corrupt, or if the ELEMENT is the issue. So that one I ruled out pretty quickly.

            Comment


              #7
              Refreshing this thread, as I've got a project that continues to have KEYNOTE LEGENDS that 'drop' keynotes that ARE on sheeted views (NOT the same issue as the Plan / RCP views together on the same sheet as above). Autodesk discussion boards cite it as a known issue for R2018/R2019 files, but I've not seen that being the case for R2020 (although this project has multiple building files, and SOME were upgraded from R2019, some started from R2020 template (which was also upgraded from R2019).

              Long winded summary short: KEYNOTE LEGENDS continue to drop applied keynotes. Reasons unknow.
              Tested:
              • If the Keynote TXT was actively being edited at the time - no evidence when tested
              • If the Keynote TXT was being edited by multiple people (since it apparently does NOT block simultaneous edits !?!) - no evidence when tested
              • If the Keynote was not reloaded after an edit - no evidence when tested
              Anyone know a reason for this glitch? Anyone discover a resolution?
              iGracias!

              Comment


                #8
                Toggle on/off (or reverse) either Annotation crop or crop boundary will force refresh keynote legends. If that works then Revit “sees” the keynote/tag in the view. If it doesn’t then the element that carries the tag might be outside the primary range of the view.

                We see the crop refresh issue recurring on a number of projects. Printing a sheet that isn’t open might not include all keynotes in the legend. Opening the sheet view(s) before printing is more consistent.

                Internal suspicion is an older template upgraded several times might be to “blame”. Autodesk has admitted “fixing” the issue at least once in the past but it seems to recur despite that claim.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Thanks for the response, Steve. We did try jostling the annotation crop, but since we're using Scope Boxes to set that, thats more fiddling than we want to have to do. We've also seen the keynotes 'drop off' the legend even when the sheet is OPEN, so I suspect it's a glitch on the programming side. And yes, our template has been upgraded, probably from further back in versions that I am even aware of. I have plans to rebuild it from scratch for R2022, but that's still on my horizon.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Toggle on/off is the "only" fix I'm aware of that forces a refresh of the legend on the sheet. Dynamo could run through views on sheets to do that.

                    Comment

                    Related Topics

                    Collapse

                    Working...
                    X