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    Another Firm Makes a Request For Our Model...What to do?

    We finished up a large remodel project about a year ago for a federal agency. When we turned in our Record Drawings, the Revit model was not part of the required submittal so we did not give it to them. The client and project was a nightmare and when all the dust settled my boss decided not to pursue any more work with them

    A year has passed and this client has hired another architectural firm to do another remodel. This firm has contacted us asking if we will give them our Revit model.

    Not sure how to handle this. What are others experiences with this sort of thing?

    Thanks.
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    If its part of the deliverable (during your project), i am all about sharing models with the owners, and with the construction teams. Even if its not explicitly written out, if a GC wants access to a model i built, im pretty willing to be a part of the team and help out.

    But a year later? Not only would i not give them the model, i probably wouldnt even respond to the request. LOL.

    Having worked on the building X long ago doesnt mean you are automatically on the hook for supplying resources to every company that ever works in that building again.
    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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      #3
      Give them a model? Not a chance. But take measurements to confirm if there is any coincidental relationship between what was modeled and built? Sure. For an hourly fee of course. Travel time to be included.
      ​My ID was stolen. Now I'm only called Dav

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        #4
        I agree. If the model was not part of the deliverable then I wouldn't give it to them.

        But...I know it wasn't part of the deliverable for an earlier version of one of my current projects, and the client asked the prior designer for their Revit model and they let us have it....with a stipulation that I had to export all the dwg's to the client for them. It probably helped that it was my previous employer and nobody there knows Revit now. I was the last.
        Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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          #5
          Suggest your boss discuss it with your lawyer. If the firm has a friendly relationship with yours then it might be worth it to build on that, future work with other clients. Regardless, no way I’d give it to them without a legal release of liability signed by both the design firm and the client.

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            #6
            No model for them.
            What they are trying to do is make some money off your Model
            If you give them it, they will be saving time (& therefore money) by not having to reproduce the Building.

            Stick it to the man & don't relent!
            Dwane

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              #7
              Originally posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
              Suggest your boss discuss it with your lawyer. If the firm has a friendly relationship with yours then it might be worth it to build on that, future work with other clients. Regardless, no way I’d give it to them without a legal release of liability signed by both the design firm and the client.
              Along with a fat check

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                #8
                Yeah agree I would make it available for a fee, legally it is your intellectual property (if it wasnt included in the deliverables)
                I have seen a model go for 2million (no joke) at a later date over here in Europe because it was a huge project, and was not part of the deliverables.

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                  #9
                  I agree. The model is your intellectual property and has significant commercial value. At the very least the value would be equivalent to the cost of a new survey and model, but you would also need to be 100% happy that the model represented the as-constructed information and was not simply the design intent version.

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                    #10
                    It’s not uncommon for public clients to require the transfer of all ownership rights to themselves, regardless of the required deliverables listed in the contract. Like @Twiceroadsfool, I’m in favor of widely sharing the model to the project team. I’d want the Client to request the material, and a comprehensive release executed would have to be part of the business transaction.
                    RICHARD SPEICHER AIA NCARB
                    WMF PRINCIPAL / TREASURER
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