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    This came up in another thread and seem worth further investigation: does anyone have any experience with working on Revit through a Remote Desktop connection? For instance: I work on my pc (which is a brutal beast) through my laptop (which is more of a tame 17 year old cat). Does that require a lot of bandwith? Are there any numbers on the typical amount of data that is transferred?

    Until now I've never tried this since my belief was that this was only feasable when you have a firm amount of bandwith to communicate. Which makes the solution well, useless. Cause that would mean I would have to be at the office, and then I can use my pc. But does it really require that much bandwith?
    And if not, can anyone point me to a useful piece of software for this? I know Windows has a RD-thingy somewhere (I think) but I'm assuming the OOTB solution isn't necessarily the best (now where have I heard that before?? )
    Martijn de Riet
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    I use it sometimes for running Revit at the laptop in the living room, from my PC in the basement, but if you wanna do it remotely over the internet, you´d need a synchronized (same up-/download speed) connection at each location, and probably a minimum of 5/5Mbps.

    The OOTB RD "thingy" in windows is pretty decent IMO, but when doing remote (online) desktop connections, I prefer to use www.teamviewer.com
    Klaus Munkholm
    "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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      #3
      I used it some time ago from Home to Office. It's "ok" if half a second of delay at every command doesn't bother you. Also don't expect High quality colors and fast spins.
      As Munkholm says, I also recommend teamviewer for the easiness of installation, but you have to be connected to internet for it to work. Also it might not be a good solution for ultra secure informations.
      Alternative would be VNC and Remote Desktop.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
        I use it sometimes for running Revit at the laptop in the living room, from my PC in the basement, but if you wanna do it remotely over the internet, you´d need a synchronized (same up-/download speed) connection at each location, and probably a minimum of 5/5Mbps.

        The OOTB RD "thingy" in windows is pretty decent IMO, but when doing remote (online) desktop connections, I prefer to use www.teamviewer.com
        Thanks. That probably rules out useage through mobile internet connection. Why do the connections need to be synced? Isn't this a "weakest link" sort of thing? (weakest link determines overall speed)

        Originally posted by lucis29 View Post
        I used it some time ago from Home to Office. It's "ok" if half a second of delay at every command doesn't bother you. Also don't expect High quality colors and fast spins.
        As Munkholm says, I also recommend teamviewer for the easiness of installation, but you have to be connected to internet for it to work. Also it might not be a good solution for ultra secure informations.
        Alternative would be VNC and Remote Desktop.
        Half a second delay is probably more then using my laptop... Too bad. Would have been nice though.
        Martijn de Riet
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          #5
          Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
          The OOTB RD "thingy" in windows is pretty decent IMO, but when doing remote (online) desktop connections, I prefer to use TeamViewer - Free Remote Access and Remote Desktop Sharing over the Internet
          I've tried using teamviewer to use my work computer from the comfort of my own home, but despite being less than 1.3Km away, with a very fast line for the company, and a pretty respectable line at my house, the lag's just not up to work sensibly. It's great for launching renders - but beyond that, I found it next to useless - experimenting with Vasari certainly wasn't as fun as it should have been.

          That said, one of our guys in Newcastle is using one of our London workstations remotely to get at a central file hosted here, but he's a low-level user, fairly new to Revit, so he's not reporting any lag, as he wouldn't know it even if he saw it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
            Thanks. That probably rules out useage through mobile internet connection. Why do the connections need to be synced? Isn't this a "weakest link" sort of thing? (weakest link determines overall speed)
            They don't have to be synced, but you will run with the speed of the lowest (upload/download). Munkholm recommended you a synchronous bandwidth because usually upload is 10 time slower then the download.
            Also you have to have this for both computers. Whats upload from one is download for the other one.

            Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
            Half a second delay is probably more then using my laptop... Too bad. Would have been nice though.
            If you're inside a LAN, you will not "feel" the half second lag.

            Lucian.
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              #7
              Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
              ...Why do the connections need to be synced? Isn't this a "weakest link" sort of thing? (weakest link determines overall speed)...
              Originally posted by lucis29 View Post
              They don't have to be synced, but you will run with the speed of the lowest (upload/download). Munkholm recommended you a synchronous bandwidth because usually upload is 10 time slower then the download...
              Yes, recommended the synced connection, because at least one of the computers (the one running Revit) would have to be on a connection with a huge upload connection (50mps?).
              The Revit computer will, to explain it very simple, be streaming a FullHD movie live (the content of the screen) to the Laptop, that requires a very fast upload for the Revit computer, and a fast download connection for the Laptop. Only a small amount of information is going the other way (mouse inputs, etc.) so you may not need a synced connection at the laptop location, and thus may get away with a 50/2mbps connection.
              Klaus Munkholm
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                #8
                People in our office work through Remote Desktop from home all the time. And back in the 32 bit WinXP days i was doing it with 250 MB central files. Is it slow? Sure. But if you work in big laggy files to begin with, you learn to work around it. Less panning and scroll wheeling, more zoom window, mouse movements, etc.

                Its not ideal- as in: real time, but its certainly not bad. I do it every few days here, when im out of the office and need to open a workshared model.
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                  #9
                  We use RDC connections, and I use one for my home. Its barable to work on. It does depend alot on the connection speed. But also there are a lot of Reg hacks and settings you can modify in the RDC client to improve usablilty.

                  You will need somewhere aroudn 5Mbps/5Mbps connections with a very low ping. Again some of the registery hacks and client settings can improve this.
                  Last edited by Alex Cunningham; September 20, 2011, 05:03 PM.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by wrightrock
                    We use ***** remote support servers for all our remote access needs. You may also try the same.
                    I don't like to be cynical or suspicious, so please accept my sincere apology if you're a legitimate Revit user who just happened to create a user account solely to reply to a 3 year old thread with a one sentence recommendation for a product that seems to only be promoted by one and done comment posters.
                    Last edited by iru69; November 8, 2014, 01:18 AM. Reason: removed spam link; mods are welcome to delete altogether.

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