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    Linked Model Workflow

    The situation is: we have two offices working on one model during the DD phase. One office is doing 75% of the work in the main model while the other is linking the main model in and doing code plans, misc drawings, etc. When the CD phase rolls around, one office will be responsible for the remainder of the work and I would like to bind the two together into one model but I want to maintain views, sheets, plans, etc. created.

    Is this possible?
    Chad Koscinski | Architect

    #2
    Another problem I just ran into is there are three different seating configurations for the floor plan. In the linked file the different configurations are handled by visible/hidden in view. Unfortunately, in the host file all three show up on top of each other and I'm not able hide them in view. I would try and set up a filter except they are all the same category but just arranged differently.

    Any ideas on how I could override the graphics in the host file? I'm thinking I might just hide the category all together and paste the elements into the host file.

    Don't have very much experience with linking Revit models between architecture offices, obviously...
    Chad Koscinski | Architect

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      #3
      Youre heading down a very very ugly road.

      Binding models does not bring in sheets. Load a file as a group can bring detailing, but it was meant for much smaller stuff. Read: This isnt going to work well.

      I do TONS TONS TONS with file linking, but- flat out- Its not going to work well for dividing the work the way you guys are planning on. Your best bet is to keep one model, and get some users to Remote Desktop in.
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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        #4
        Yeah, it felt like an ugly road when I started thinking about it. I suggested the Remote Desktop but IT on the other end says nope. I think they are protective of their server security or something similar.

        I'm thinking I'll just have to manipulate the linked model in order for me to get the correct object displayed in my host file. Really going to be a pain in the rear, but it seems like the way to go if Remote Desktop is out of the picture.
        Chad Koscinski | Architect

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          #5
          What about programs like Teamviewer ? Could you "sell" that to IT on the other end ? It´s fairly inexpensive, and will work without messing with the servers
          Klaus Munkholm
          "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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            #6
            I'll look into that tonight - thanks! One thing though, if it requires a super fast internet connection it probably won't do. Our internet bandwidth is ham-stringed in this building.

            I know, all these excuses are pretty much painting me into a corner.
            Chad Koscinski | Architect

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              #7
              Chad, are you the prime, or are they? Or is it a full partnership? And would you be hosting the model, or they would? Cause RDP is second only to sending some folks to the other office to work as far as how well it works. For their IT department to veto something without understanding the architectural and business implications is troubling. Breaking up the model and the documentation is just a hard way to go. Bag o' hurt kinda hard. And RDP can be done with very solid security when combined with VPN. And minimal configuration pain on ether side.

              Gordon
              Pragmatic Praxis

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                #8
                Originally posted by Chadwick17 View Post
                Another problem I just ran into is there are three different seating configurations for the floor plan. In the linked file the different configurations are handled by visible/hidden in view.
                Therein lies the problem. If they understood how to use Design Options this would be cake on your end. But they don't, so they are doing too much work to give you a model that requires too much work to make useful. This benefits anyone how?

                Gordon
                Pragmatic Praxis

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                  #9
                  Remote Desktop would not effect security in anyway. VPN is very secure and RDC takes 15 min to set up.
                  -Alex Cunningham

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                    #10
                    Youre not listening to what im saying, lol. Youre not going to be able to get it to work.

                    Linked Models dont get Draw Order capabilities, so if there are objects on top of one another, its going to be based on "Link or not" and if two links "order models were linked in." Theres no front to back, etc. Youll have to continually edit all of the drawings from the other model, IN the other model, since theres no good way to transfer all of the views and sheets over. Youre other option is to go By Linked View for all of their views, which is possible, but then you have to recreate all the views and sheets in your model anyway, so you can reference the BLV in YOUR views. (Also remember this goes out the window if your Phases, Phase Filters, Phase Overrides, etc, are named anything different at all in the two files). If youre NOT doing BLV, then youll have to work in two files, and print from two files, but one file will have to have dummy sheets and views (filtered out of the drawing list somehow) because inevitably youre going to want View references in one file pointing to the other.

                    Then multiply that by Content management issues (wall types), having to configure all of the VG:RVT Link stuff WHICHEVER way youre going, the fact that youre (probably) using different templates, etc, and believe me.... IT is the least of your concerns.

                    Trust me when i say it wont end well. Make management pay attention, and either co-locate with the other office, or work through remote desktop. THOSE ARE the only options, when youre making decisions this late in the game.
                    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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