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    Grade beam schedule

    Revit 2018

    I was wondering (I know this is the Architecture forum, but I have much better luck in this one) about grade beams.

    I used to use structural foundation slabs when modelling grade beams just to get something in the model, but the Architect is getting stricter on modelling and I have to use a live schedule for everything.

    I don't think slabs can be scheduled, as they are totally free form.

    Has anyone used concrete beams for grade beams? This way, I could schedule them in a grade beam schedule but I don't know if there are any unforeseen problems with this practice. Also I can't use wall footings, because lots of times there's no wall, only some columns etc.

    Any clues would be greatly appreciated.

    #2
    We use Beams for them all the time. That way we can tag them to the corresponding Grade Beam Type, as well. And we schedule them, too.
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      #3
      I was contracted by a structural firm to do as-builts once for a seismic upgrade, and used concrete beams for the grade beams. It worked well on my end, and I didn't get any blow back from them on it. You may have some graphics to deal with, as I don't think they'll join with foundations. Just my two cents.
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        #4
        OK thanks! I'll give it a try.

        Any hint as to what type of schedule template to use? I need to get the width and depth in there.
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          #5
          Just a Structural Framing Schedule. With a Filter. Nothing special or odd about it.

          Honestly, i dont even consider it a workaround. Using Beams for Grade Beams is the correct way to model it, IMHO. When i work with Engineers that cheat Beams with Sketched Slabs, i reject that stuff right away, because it tends to also mean TEXT for Beam Annotations, and they ALWAYS have them the wrong size.
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            #6
            I suppose I have to add some sort of shared parameter to the beam family to get the b and the h to show up in the schedule. I'm not sure but that's what I read.

            Revit really doesn't know about grade beams?

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              #7
              I would replace all (well, most) of the OOTB parameters with Shared, using something like Family Processor, anyway. If you dont have Type Catalogs, it'll replace the value for you when it loads in the Shared Parameters (if you tell it to). And if you DO have TC's, you dont even have to bother.

              Only thing id be careful of, is SOME third party addins get *angry* if they dont find the OOTB parameters. Of course, thats true for the OOTB family names, too. So, in the past ive done both:

              1. Replaced the parameters with my own, or:
              2. Added my parameters in, and left the OOTB ones there as well.
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                #8
                OK, So far so good. I just saved a pad footing as a grade beam and changed the parameters around a bit.

                But I have another question. Is there anyway to get multiple lines in a schedule such as I have pictured in the attachment?
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                  #9
                  None that i would bother doing, personally.

                  And i hope the sizes actually match the model (personally). Text for sizes makes my "check every dimension" alarm go off, LOL.
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                    #10
                    OK so I did manage to get the text to stack up properly. See attached image of my actual live grade beam schedule and how I did it. If you have a workaround on this that would be awesome too. Thanks for all the help!!
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