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    #1

    The Trouble with Window Jambs & Opening Cuts

    I'm hoping the experts can help me out on this one -

    Here is an example of a typical window we use in our office.

    Click image for larger version Name: opening sketch.PNG Views: 1 Size: 22.1 KB ID: 418710

    You can see that we draw the opening cut boundary along the outside edge of the jamb. The reason we do that is so a wall doesn't overlap the jamb in 3D and in section views. In some cases we would like to continue the wall finish over top of the jamb face but we haven't been able to find a good way to accomplish this (so far no luck using additional voids).

    Has anyone been able to find a way to do this?

    do most people even bother modeling the jamb in Window Families?

    Thanks!
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    #2
    Not a 100% sure what you mean, but this is what I have.



    I basically have 3 voids, one for each layer of the wall which I can adjust with parameter top, bottom, left and right if needed.
    If that is what you are looking for I can maybe help you a bit more.
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    Company Website: www.deurloobm.nl
    Revit Ideas: Is this family Mirrored? | Approve warnings | Family Type parameter just those in the family

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      #3
      Separate voids, as Robin mentioned. My exterior trim cuts the wall completely different than the windows do, and the Windows are different on the interior side and the exterior side. Voids, not openings.
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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        #4
        thanks for the quick replies. How did you get around this error when making an additional void in the host wall

        Click image for larger version Name: Void Error.PNG Views: 1 Size: 29.8 KB ID: 395879

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          #5
          Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
          Separate voids, as Robin mentioned. My exterior trim cuts the wall completely different than the windows do, and the Windows are different on the interior side and the exterior side. Voids, not openings.
          or do you mean no openings at all?

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            #6
            correct you can't have openings and voids. however you can nest in families(trim) that has voids into a window that uses an opening. But its most flexible to delete the opening and make your windows with voids. Note when you do that the void will try to cut all your geometry, so don't make the full opening right away so you can "un-cut" the geometry.
            Scott D. Brown, AIA | Senior Project Manager | Beck Group

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              #7
              Originally posted by billiam View Post
              or do you mean no openings at all?
              I have never come across a window or door where an opening worked for me, so yeah get rid of that right away and add a few voids.
              Company Website: www.deurloobm.nl
              Revit Ideas: Is this family Mirrored? | Approve warnings | Family Type parameter just those in the family

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                #8
                I use a combination, since my Voids tend to be within Nested Families. So i have both.
                Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                  #9
                  I'm finding face based voids that don't pass thru the entire wall assembly frequently cause the finish thickness to be displayed wrong(too fat) its like half the wall get the finish material instead of whatever the thickness in the wall aseembly is set to. Anyone know how to solve this?Click image for larger version Name: voides.jpg Views: 1 Size: 87.7 KB ID: 396370
                  Scott D. Brown, AIA | Senior Project Manager | Beck Group

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sdbrownaia View Post
                    I'm finding face based voids that don't pass thru the entire wall assembly frequently cause the finish thickness to be displayed wrong(too fat) its like half the wall get the finish material instead of whatever the thickness in the wall aseembly is set to. Anyone know how to solve this?[ATTACH=CONFIG]33956[/ATTACH]
                    Model the finish separately and join to the substrate wall perhaps?

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