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    Researched for a sectional +wicket door family

    Hello,

    I am trying to find a sectional door with a wicket door + windows family.
    I have tried multiple times to edit existing sectional door families that I find in order to put windows or an additional service door but without good result.
    Is there someone that can help me to this?

    Thank you in advance!

    #2
    That's a really open ended question. Most things are possible but maybe you should show what you have done so far to give a better idea of exactly what you're trying to achieve.
    There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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      #3
      Hi Maria, correct me if I’m wrong but if you want a wicket door you are going to have to go with an up and over door, not a sectional door. At least for residential situations. That’s because the door and frame have to be rigid and can’t be ‘sectioned’.

      You can however have windows in sectioned doors, as long as they fit within a ‘section’. You can get them on the arcat.com website.

      5360E624-A17D-4959-8357-CAA6F79874CE.jpeg

      I remember Hormann make one (https://www.hormann.co.uk/private-bu.../garage-doors/).

      A lot of manufacturers nowadays keep the Revit families with their sales people so that you have to contact them and ask them, so that they get a contact before they release any Revit families. Good luck !
      Last edited by kamranmirza; February 20, 2018, 07:48 AM.
      Kamran Mirza
      Chartered Architect RIBA, ARB, PCATP

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        #4
        Originally posted by kamranmirza View Post
        Hi Maria, correct me if I’m wrong but if you want a wicket door you are going to have to go with an up and over door, not a sectional door. At least for residential situations. That’s because the door and frame have to be rigid and can’t be ‘sectioned’.
        yeah you can
        https://www.google.com.au/search?q=w...w=1920&bih=945

        i didn't watch it but there's even a youtube video
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITArdQFTMpE

        Google works sometimes :thumbsup:
        There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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          #5
          Originally posted by elton williams View Post
          yeah you can
          Wow, no matter how much "How it's Made" you watch, the ingenuity of the Human Race continues to astound !!

          BTW, Maria's answer is in that video - there's a sectional family with a door in it in the video
          Kamran Mirza
          Chartered Architect RIBA, ARB, PCATP

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            #6
            Thank you for your help! Yes I saw this video and I also found the .rfa, but I cannot create openings in the panel of the door.
            Can I upload the family here to have a look, if you have the time?

            Thank you in advanve!

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              #7
              Put it up . . .
              Kamran Mirza
              Chartered Architect RIBA, ARB, PCATP

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                #8
                Here you will find it.

                https://www.nationalbimlibrary.com/h...-track-type-hu

                [ the .rvt file exceed the limit in order to upload the family here]

                Thank you!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MARIA1993 View Post
                  I have tried multiple times to edit existing sectional door families that I find in order to put windows or an additional service door
                  Hey Maria,

                  This is actually quite a well built family with parametric controls for the size of the door, etc.

                  It is from the manufacturer's range, and they don't have more than one wicket door in a sectional door.

                  However if you are making a custom door [which is a useless exercise unless you can actually find a product manufactured by someone, as this isn't something that can be knocked up by a contractor in a workshop] then the door and windows are found in the 2nd level nested door family:

                  "NBS_Hörmann(UK)Ltd_DrsetSym_WicketDoorWithGlazing Panels.rfa"

                  You'll have to reverse engineer the reference planes and rebuild it from this family. I've attached an image below. If you don't want to make it parametric and know the size and what it comprises, you can rebuild it from here without any parameters connected to the dims. You can find enough info online on making parametric families.

                  Wicket door family.JPG
                  Kamran Mirza
                  Chartered Architect RIBA, ARB, PCATP

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                    #10
                    Hello,
                    Thank you for your time! I have multiple times to edit this door and it is quite difficulte.
                    The 'Track' that it has is very high and even if I change the parameter in the 2nd nested family, the height remains the same. The level of my floor is 3m so, the track exceed it.
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