high end curtain wall composition (not)

[lost again again]

I need to span wood studs with window screen (because I work on high end projects like that), and thought I would use a curtain wall with mullions for the studs and thin curtain panels in front of the mullions as the screen. The only hangup is the screen should be one roll across the wall and studs, but each panel joint is visible. Is there a trick beyond the linework tool to make the curtain panels look like a single panel in front of the mullions?

[Dave Jones]

I need to span wood studs with window screen (because I work on high end projects like that), and thought I would use a curtain wall with mullions for the studs and thin curtain panels in front of the mullions as the screen. The only hangup is the screen should be one roll across the wall and studs, but each panel joint is visible. Is there a trick beyond the linework tool to make the curtain panels look like a single panel in front of the mullions?

two curtain walls, one for the studs and one for the screen would probably be easiest. If you mullion profiles are created to not cross the curtain wall placement line they would not break up the curtain panel screen is another option

[lost again again]

Thanks Dave - I knew you would know the options. I'll just use the linework this time - it's about 20 panel joints total for the whole project (not quite Levi's Stadium!), already laid out and just this last bit of graphics to be done.

[lost again again]

OK just one more question Dave if you don't mind - how do you change the mullion profile to not cross the curtain wall placement line? I changed the rectangular mullion's "offset" parameter to 1/8" then to 12", but neither of these settings is removing the curtain panel joints in elevation.

[DavidLarson]

Have you tried using a generic family as though it was a window to get the same effect?

[lost again again]

David: Thank you for the suggestion. I want the studs behind the screen, so that inside you see studs and outside you see one sheet of screen. As the length of screen increases, so does the number of studs, which is why I followed my first guess of curtain wall. I'm not immediately sure of how to do that with a generic family.

[Dave Jones]

OK just one more question Dave if you don't mind - how do you change the mullion profile to not cross the curtain wall placement line? I changed the rectangular mullion's "offset" parameter to 1/8" then to 12", but neither of these settings is removing the curtain panel joints in elevation.

I guess that I should try what I suggest before I suggest? I never use mullions as a backing like a stud in the same curtain wall as the curtain panel so didn't realize that no matter where you create the mullion profile or how much you offset it each of them still creates a grid line. So, again, the easiest is the two curtain wall method. This took me less than 5 mins to create. Mullion profile from scratch, made a mullion for a stud, created two curtain walls, screen wall and stud wall and made them both out of square.

if you'd like a project with these curtain walls just PM me

oh, and here's a plan view

[lost again again]

Thanks for the confirmation, Dave. Your example looks just like I imagined. I will keep it in mind - this project, like every project, is sure to become more complicated and replacing my single curtain wall (with adjusted linework at elevations) with two adjacent curtain walls just may be justified before I'm done...

[Dave Jones]

Thanks for the confirmation, Dave. Your example looks just like I imagined. I will keep it in mind - this project, like every project, is sure to become more complicated and replacing my single curtain wall (with adjusted linework at elevations) with two adjacent curtain walls just may be justified before I'm done...

good luck! I saved that project in case you ever need those two curtain walls, just let me know

[DavidLarson]

David: Thank you for the suggestion. I want the studs behind the screen, so that inside you see studs and outside you see one sheet of screen. As the length of screen increases, so does the number of studs, which is why I followed my first guess of curtain wall. I'm not immediately sure of how to do that with a generic family.

I really need to put together a training family that I can send out for exactly this purpose.

It is possible, even easy once you get the hang of it, to make families that add pieces as the family gets longer. You should be able to find examples of things like ladders that add rungs as it gets taller.