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    Curtain Walls - Location relative to adjacent walls

    I'm placing some curtain walls in a project which has different wall depths. My original thought was to use use the finish face of the external wall as the location line for the CW and apply offsets to the mullion profiles and curtain panels. It seemed logical at the time however due to these differing wall constructions, if I am to continue using the external wall finish line I'm faced with having to create duplicates of the mullion profiles and curtain panels with different offsets. No big deal but makes me wonder what everyone else is doing? Is there any mileage in using a single CW type and just manually positioning the CW within each wall depth (doesn't feel right to me but I might be over thinking things).

    #2
    If it's the same wall system just offset by different dimensions, I would use the same wall for all of them. multiple types of everything just adds more to manage and you're also going to mess with your room areas if that matters at all. The curtain wall reference line is the room separation, not the panel.

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      #3
      Agree with Chris. Configure the Curtain wall and its mullions/panels so it works as a unit and place them in the correct position relative to surrounding walls as required. As he also noted you ought to decide how to offset them (mullions/panels) so you get a desirable room boundary. Keep in mind that embedded curtain walls (Automatically Embed feature) don't change room bounding, that's decided by the hosting wall.

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        #4
        Originally posted by chris.macko View Post
        If it's the same wall system just offset by different dimensions
        Specify Offset where exactly? I've tried using the Instance Properties for Horizontal and Vertical grid and it had no effect moving the mullions and panels inwards or outwards.

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          #5
          Offset is applied at the mullions and panel via type parameters.
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            #6
            This is what I had applied already (hence the query regarding duplication of mullions with differing offset values). The problem ultimately arises from incorrect use of the placement line so I've reverted to a single type of mullion and glazed panel, set the offsets so the room-side face of the mullion aligns to the CW ref line and manually set the CW within the host/adjacent walls. Thanks for the clarification.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BLothian View Post
              Specify Offset where exactly? I've tried using the Instance Properties for Horizontal and Vertical grid and it had no effect moving the mullions and panels inwards or outwards.
              I'm not talking about any offset setting, I'm just saying the wall is actually offset from the adjacent wall (using offset or move command). Depending on how it's modeled you might need to disallow join on the curtain wall ends to keep them from trying to join with other nearby walls.
              The mullion and panel offsets should be set to make the system correct independent of the adjacent walls.

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                #8
                Years ago, I decided I didn't like CL of glass, so I moved it to exterior face of system. That felt like an awesome decision, right up until I remembered designers would use different depth snap caps, or angled Mullions, as part of the design.

                Then I also realized it meant needing a bunch of redundant "panels" to accommodate. Yeah. It sucked.

                I dealt with it for one year, then rebuilt them all using glass at centerline. It's the only really practical way, when you start considering all the factors there are.

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                  #9
                  I prefer face of exterior glass. Has worked well for me.


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                    #10
                    Interior face of glass would work better to help make room areas more accurate, but it probably doesn't matter since BOMA plans pretty much have to be done as area plans to get all the relationships right. I still use center of glass because the corner mullions never seem to clean up right using anything else.

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