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    My first queries

    First post so be gentle

    Being relatively new to revit this could be quite simple. We've only been using the software full on for a little over a month, previous to that we had employed a temp to do the project in revit as we didn't have the time since our 3 day training course that my employer put me on. I did a little bit of Revit previous to this so have some understanding of the software, but now my role is getting more and more involved with it so I'm diving right in.

    Query 1 - Basically we have modelled some apartments (Revit MEP 2016) and have hosted families to walls within the linked revit models. It appears fine, I've received an e-mail from the person at the Architect's practice we are working with informing me that items are hosted to the incorrect items. I.e. Hosted to the wall skim when it should be the plasterboard or vice versa.

    When I select the family in our model it tells me that the host is 'Linked revit model : 'Name of revit model'', how do I go about seeing what an object is hosted too. Would I have to copy / monitor the walls into our model and then ensure it's hosted correctly this way? The issue with doing this however is when I do copy it brings in a basic wall.

    Issues with this -
    1) The client will be a pain if this generic wall is in the model when we issue ours. So everytime I issue I will have to delete every aspect of the architecturals model i.e. anything we copy.
    2) The architects wall is made up of a large number of layers. How can I be certain that it is then hosted to the correct layer of the wall? Or will it simply be hosted to the 'wall' and I'm just overcomplicating this?

    Query 2 - My next query i'm going to google in a moment as i've only just thought about this. When you issue you're model, what steps do you take to prepare it for issue? I.e. purging the file, removing views etc. When I did my very brief (not long enough) training course that work provided I vaguely remember that you could go into the revit symbol top left and maybe export the file for e-mail use? Or something similar, now my training was with 2018 (a newer version to what I need for our first job). However going through the options on my current revit I don't have that ability, is there an add on for this or similar?

    Any help would be appreciated, I'm going to keep an eye on the forum and hopefully as my experience grows I will be able to help others in turn

    #2
    Query 1
    I'm guessing the large amount of layers is the 'problem'. Once you hosted a family on one of the layers and the architect adds more layers to it (assuming they are separate walls and not 1 wall with multiple layers), your family will still be hosted to its original host and be inside of the wall. Can't think of any option then to go over the families and host them to the right wall, but that might mean you have to do that again when stuff changes again, but I'm not a MEP guy, so I might be very wrong here.

    Query 2
    There is a subscription add-in called eTransmit for Autodesk® Revit®. If you have that installed you should get the eTransmit option in the big R menu.
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    Revit Ideas: Is this family Mirrored? | Approve warnings | Family Type parameter just those in the family

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      #3
      Query 1
      Having worked on MEP revit projects for a long time, my advice would be; never use hosted families, ever. Use Level based for everything.
      Yes there are some advantages to hosted but level hosted families are so much more reliable, consistent in how they work and easier to copy, group etc.
      If one time you really do need to host an MEP family on something, then all Level based families have a 'Workplane based' option you can turn on so they will host on any surface.
      Personally I prefer to see if anarchitect has moved all the walls around and then check and reposition fixtures with Align, than have things change automatically without it being reported or confirmed to still be correct...

      Query 2
      Depends what you mean by Prepare for issue.
      If you mean package up a model, with its linked models or CAD links and purge unused stuff to make it smaller. That is what E-Transmit will do.
      If you mean remove unused/internal views, sheets, calculations, temporary model stuff used for design purposes etc.. then it is a good idea to do that before you officially give a model to another party/client, but when sharing with a design team during the project its not really necessary.

      (Oh, and Welcome )
      Last edited by josephpeel; November 9, 2017, 11:43 AM.
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