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    Multi storey building- best practice

    I have a 25 storey building with repeative curtain walking and repeative floor plans.
    what is the best way to set this up given we will need to produce schedules which need to be
    accounted floor by floor

    - the curtain wall is also a repeated patten - what’s the best method

    thanks

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    Groups and schedules with filters by Base Constraint.
    This does mean you have to be accurate with the Base Constraint of your walls, so no placing your wall on the second floor with an offset of 3000 mm so it looks like it is on the third floor
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      #3
      Originally posted by clgx23 View Post
      I have a 25 storey building with repeative curtain walking and repeative floor plans.
      what is the best way to set this up given we will need to produce schedules which need to be
      accounted floor by floor

      - the curtain wall is also a repeated patten - what’s the best method

      thanks
      The term "curtain wall" indicates a glazed wall spanning floors. If that's the case for your project, model it how it is built and schedule via parameters for floor, elevation, etc. If in fact your glazed walls are interrupted by spandrel panels at floor levels then the term is window wall and use Robin's advice.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Dave Jones View Post
        The term "curtain wall" indicates a glazed wall spanning floors. If that's the case for your project, model it how it is built and schedule via parameters for floor, elevation, etc. If in fact your glazed walls are interrupted by spandrel panels at floor levels then the term is window wall and use Robin's advice.

        I second that with you DJ. In fact, i was typing and you seems to be more quicker that me.

        My original Message was(In case you want to read): We can create a project parameter that holds the level information separately (let's call the PP as schedule Level)and assign the elements belong to that corresponding level (say Lvl 01,02 etc.,.)

        This would allow us to extract down the information by individual levels.

        I have learned this in a hardest way when I was working on a tower project and copied elements by grouping them together.
        Last edited by Shan1512; October 11, 2017, 12:54 AM.

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          #5
          Thanks All,
          currently i have created groups - for example a wc layout which is repeated the whole building including doors - i was just going to copy and paste per level but i think that there is a better way - I am not familiar with assigning items to a level as a PP. i will go and research!

          As we show door number on our drawing plans - and say levels 3 - 10 are identical - apart from producing 8 identical sheets who's only difference would be tags which identify levels? Is there a way revit can duplicate floor plans and consolidate them on one sheet with a title of 'levels 3 - 10'?? and still created a full door schedule.

          This is the first multi storey block over 11 levels that i have modelled and think Revit should have a way to consolidate levels that are the same on one sheet but are full itemised per level for schedules? ... am i wrong?

          With the curtain wall its is a glazed and bespoke panel arrangement which repeats every two stories on a 9m grid - i initially created a 'master' curtain wall which set the grids and panels out then copied it and adjusted the layout to each elevation face. Typically model as it would be built - this way each elevation is one continuous wall from ground to roof. Again i think there must be a better way to do this and pin at each two floor repeat?

          Good news we do not schedule out curtain walls for this project! we just calculate glazed areas - scheduling for this project will be doors & areas.

          Thanks for your help

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            #6
            Originally posted by clgx23 View Post
            Thanks All,
            currently i have created groups - for example a wc layout which is repeated the whole building including doors - i was just going to copy and paste per level but i think that there is a better way
            You can Paste Alligned to selected Levels and select all the level you want that group to be on, so there is no need to open each plan and paste it in current view. I would try and make your groups not to small. If an apartment is the same on each floor make a group of the entire apartment and not one for the wc, one for the kitchen, one for the bedroom etc. And groups within groups seems to give some issues as well.



            Originally posted by clgx23 View Post
            As we show door number on our drawing plans - and say levels 3 - 10 are identical - apart from producing 8 identical sheets who's only difference would be tags which identify levels? Is there a way revit can duplicate floor plans and consolidate them on one sheet with a title of 'levels 3 - 10'?? and still created a full door schedule.
            You can of course make a sheet that says level 3 - 10 and add the plan from level 3 on it. Since you did model each floor (I asume) your schedules will not be effected by that at all and will still have data for floors 4 - 10 as well.
            Last edited by Robin Deurloo; October 11, 2017, 02:19 PM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Shan1512 View Post
              I second that with you DJ. In fact, i was typing and you seems to be more quicker that me.

              My original Message was(In case you want to read): We can create a project parameter that holds the level information separately (let's call the PP as schedule Level)and assign the elements belong to that corresponding level (say Lvl 01,02 etc.,.)

              This would allow us to extract down the information by individual levels.

              I have learned this in a hardest way when I was working on a tower project and copied elements by grouping them together.
              I also schedule curtain wall parts and pieces per floor, mostly for the use of the shop fabricators and glass manufacturers to be able to box extrusions and glass by the floor they will be distributed to on the jobsite. If you have an interest, Greg McDowell, who posts here quite a bit, created a slick Dynamo graph to automagically sort curtain panels (glass lites) per floor. The graph has the ability to get user input regarding what floor spandrel panels occur on and does the whole project in one click of the Run button. Some curtain wall systems require glazing from above and some from below so this is a helpful choice to have. Just do a search for "curtain panels" in the Dynamo forum, or if you can't find it let me know and I'll post it.
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