you can just edit the family. get the type properties of your section and it should say which family it uses for the bubble and you can pick another one there.

Well actually it is a standard. As far as architectural standards here go, which in reality forms more of an evolving convention base because of the age of the standard. I would hazard a guess and say a lot of this planet use it or a form of it. Indeed the ability to quickly scan a sheet and find a section head is paramount to good documentation. Primarily it is because the head is a circle, allowing its presence to be more obvious. With all respect, personally i would have trouble finding and indentifying a section head such as yours amidst dims and other orthogonal linework.

Most firms in the entire United States, as well as the NCS and NBIMS standards for the US.

It's not that hard to change them, either. But just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's not a standard or is completely bizarre. It just means you haven't seen it before. Nothing more.

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Aaron Maller
Director
Parallax Team, Inc.

Well I'm from Europe, UK and it isn't standard here. And whether a lot of the planet do or don't use it - in europe it is completely alien. I didn't pay attention to the fact that the symbol is non-european. I am using Metric US which might be the problem (since Metric UK came with absolutely zero families) but I have no other option for families in the annotation folders available to change it to as suggested and I am not that well versed at changing this family without probably screwing up its settings/ parameters.

I would assume that someone else here from UK EUROPE would be able to help you out then. Is what you are wanting a standard look there? If so, go on brits, be a sporting chap or lass and throw the OP a section head.

cellersick (sp?) posted on a couple of months ago that was typical of what's used in the US but the cool thing about it is it had options to have arrows, not have arrows, and was rotatable (sic)...I pilfered it in a second. If the OP can't find it with a search I'll post my copy.

thanks Chris (cellersick)

Well your comment said "on what planet," and "isn't in any way standard," both of which (by now) you realize are completely inaccurate.

Dropping the rhetoric and just asking for help making the components you need (but don't have) will save everyone time, in the future.

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Aaron Maller
Director
Parallax Team, Inc.

Alas I only work in a little village called Clerkenwell where we only have a couple of hundred or so architectural practices in the area, so I can not really speak with any authority for the UK as a whole; and since collectively we are generally a bunch of backward Europhobes, I tend not to get too embroiled in dealings on the mainland; but having worked with a good few of the larger firms from around our area and close by, some whom appear to be informed by a smidgen of international experience, I would like think I have gleaned enough from their ways and, much like all of them, I am quite content using a form of section head akin to the one packaged OOTB with Revit, albeit with minor variations, because you know, we quaint little villagers like to fuss about with lineweights and stuff.

Good evening, I'm an alien.


Mate, seriously, we don't have a standard section head in UK. Even BS EN ISO 9431 doesn't dictate one.

Good evening alien! I never said we had a standard section in the UK or quoted BS as dictating one, perhaps I was misunderstood by the word 'standard' perhaps I should have stated 'uncommon'? I can show you a thousand drawings with simple section heads, none with a bubble (yes, in the UK - is that standard, I don't know, but it is certainly more common). Point being this bubble isn't used very much, outside Clerkenplace I guess. Anyone can use any symbol as long as it does the job but perhaps London is a little more cosmopolitan..easy, I don't know, don't care. But I've never seen a planning permission document with it, I have certainly never seen a drawing package with it. As much as I actually like it, it is not what is required. I cannot present drawings with it without questions. The Architectural firms I submit drawings for are very specific about 'routine' and how things should look. This bubble doesn't work in this instance, drawings would be returned because of lack of clarity or simple misunderstanding. Everyone knows a line, couple of arrows and A-A or I-I but no one I work with would understand the use of the bubble - sorry it is just not that widely recognised.. Currently I work with some of the largest Architectural firms in Europe (currently with projects in the Marine industry building ships and offshore vessels that have strict standards IMO etc) and the bubble symbol would freak them out when all they want is simple section indication on a plan view. That's the reality. Drawings will not be approved with something strange on the paper. Sorry if I offended you that you use it and I believe it is unusual or uncommon, but it is.

Either way I have modified the existing section head to provide the result I need, thank you.