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    Is there a way to make a maskin region that only affects detail component?

    Wondering if there is a way to add a masking region to a detail family that only affects the family not the view it is placed in?

    #2
    Put it in the family


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      #3
      I do have it in the family. What I am looking to do is have that Mask only Mask the family not the model its placed on top of.

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        #4
        That seems paradoxical to me. If it should hide something in the family from view then that same thing ought to hide other things that are visible beneath it. It sounds to me like you need to rethink how you create the detail item, so it looks like it is hiding something by not drawing anything in that region/location.

        A practical example or screen capture/sketch might help us understand what you're after.

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          #5
          Ok so we are trying to create an insulation component with both blown in and batt insulation that can have a keynote. I have seen the repeating line based batt insulation component. But I have found that it slow and clunky and doesn't end exactly where you want.

          The idea was to create a detail component that was say 30' long with the insulation drawn out correctly, then you would have a masking region that you could drag to make the insulation fit the wall/roof.

          I know its a weird idea. But it would make drawing and noting insulation a lot simpler.

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            #6
            Is it safe to assume you have used the Batt Insulation tool? It is not a repeating detail family, which is a system family that uses a nested detail item family. The Batt Insulation tool is a system family that is specifically intended for that purpose.

            If that's what you're objecting to, how that works...

            Scott Brown (a member here) has showed (in the past) his technique for detailing CMU walls in a unique way. Rather than creating (or using the stock families) a detail item of the CMU itself and placing those on top of a wall in section; his family detail is of just the joint itself. The family contains a few regions (masking and filled) to create the shape of a typical joint between vertically stacked CMU. One masking region at each face/side describe the curved tooled mortar joint. These outside pair mask the interior and exterior faces of the wall. The interior filled region masks the wall's cut pattern and provides a different pattern for the mortar itself.

            By carefully using line styles, in particular the Invisible Line Style on the outer portions of the tooled mortar joint masking region, the joint family masks the underlying wall without having to change the view's detail level. The result is a more realistic quality to a wall section by adding the opposite of more CMU representation to the view.

            Each masking and filled region's line segments can be assigned to different line styles, maybe using more regions (than might be expected) and the line styles carefully can help you do what you want. For example, I often find the reverse is true. People draft lines in a detail and then add regions whose lines are coincident with the previous lines. Only one is really needed. The line styles can be used effectively within the region itself and eliminate the other detail lines entirely.
            Last edited by Steve_Stafford; September 15, 2017, 05:27 PM.

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              #7
              But it can't be tagged or keynoted...
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                #8
                Yes we have used the Batt insulation tool. But it can not be tagged and is very manual. Most of our walls have two types of insulation blown in and batt. This is a very simple detail family. but imagen there were multiple elements including batt insulation. This could be keynoted and eazy to change through out the project if the insulation requirements changed. In red is the masking region that I want to hide the rest of the family but not the model beyond
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                  #9
                  One could argue tagging a wall's type ought to be sufficient to describe the assembly. We do a lot of extra work...creating the opportunity for contradictions and ambiguity.

                  :hide:

                  Originally posted by revitjoe
                  In red is the masking region that I want to hide the rest of the family but not the model beyond
                  Draft in the empty space, in the family, by not drawing anything in that space?
                  Last edited by Steve_Stafford; September 15, 2017, 05:57 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
                    One could argue tagging a wall's type ought to be sufficient to describe the assembly. We do a lot of extra work...creating the opportunity for contradictions and ambiguity.
                    Completely agree. I haven't used that tool in ages. I'd rather make a custom pattern.
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