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    Duct Tag Types

    Our duct tag family needs more types to cover all the different permutations of size, system, rise/drop (to next level), alternate leader arrow heads, comments, etc. As you can imagine that adds up to a lot of types real fast. I've got a solid base that works well. I just need more options.

    I'd like this to be as user friendly as possible.

    How many types is too many and I should consider adding an additional family or two to make the types more manageable at the user level?

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    I had the same exact problem. What I chose to do was have a single family with many types (about 15). The Types are:

    Duct Size
    Duct Size + Service
    Duct Size + Service, DN
    Duct Size + Service, UP
    Duct Size + Service, UP & DN

    Existing Duct Size
    Existing Duct Size + Service
    Existing Duct Size + Service, DN
    Existing Duct Size + Service, UP
    Existing Duct Size + Service, UP & DN

    Demolition Duct Size
    Demolition Duct Size + Service
    Demolition Duct Size + Service, DN
    Demolition Duct Size + Service, UP
    Demolition Duct Size + Service, UP & DN

    Each one of those Types has a matching Yes/No Type parameter associated with it, with the same Name. For each Type, only it's Yes/No parameter is checked. I then created a 5 x 3 grid of Labels in the family (use regular spacing!), and set the Visibility for each one to one of the Yes/No parameters. Then, in each Label, I set the prefixes and suffixes as each Type required. (We use "EX." for existing, "RX." for demolition, etc.) The "+ Service" part you see above is the System Abbreviation parameter (We use "SA" for supply air, "RA" for return air, etc.), which gets added into the Label after the Duct Size parameter. The "UP", "DN", and "UP & DN" are suffixes.

    Once all of that was set up, I had a 5 x 3 matrix of Labels for every use. I then moved them all on top of each other (this is why regular spacing is important), and I was done. The end result is a single Duct Tag family that can be used in 15 different situations, and all the user has to do is select the correct Type. Over time I've added other Types to the family, like one that shows Flow Rate, Velocity and Pressure Drop, and one that shows bottom and top of duct elevation. And, of course, you can do a similar thing with your Pipe Tags.

    As for your final question about making additional families, I wouldn't. That creates an opportunity for people to go off the reservation and use their own stuff. Minimize the number of families whenever you can and make "the standard" be the path of least resistance.
    Last edited by Necro99; July 10, 2017, 01:00 PM.

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      #3
      I keep two, the 'standard' tag and then a reduced tag that has the "rotate with component" option unchecked.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Necro99 View Post
        I had the same exact problem. What I chose to do was have a single family with many types (about 15).

        Each one of those Types has a matching Yes/No Type parameter associated with it, with the same Name. For each Type, only it's Yes/No parameter is checked.

        I then moved them all on top of each other (this is why regular spacing is important), and I was done. The end result is a single Duct Tag family that can be used in 15 different situations, and all the user has to do is select the correct Type.

        And, of course, you can do a similar thing with your Pipe Tags.

        As for your final question about making additional families, I wouldn't. That creates an opportunity for people to go off the reservation and use their own stuff. Minimize the number of families whenever you can and make "the standard" be the path of least resistance.
        TYVM.

        I'm approaching 15 types and thought I might split layout and riser tags. I could probably kind of do the same thing by grouping the types with some good naming and only have the one family.

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