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    How to use a NBS wall file in your project

    HI

    I downloaded a SIPS wall file (NBS_InnovareSystemsLtd_SIPs_iSIP_162mm) which is a project file from the NBS website. If I try to download it from within REVIT 2017 nothing seems to happen, and when I download it normally, whilst I can open the file no problem I can't seem to get it into my project - I'm using a mass from sketchup and I want to create wall from surface. Any one able to help with this at all?

    Thanks

    #2
    do you have a link to the page you downloaded the file from?
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      #3
      Hi

      I got it here:

      https://www.nationalbimlibrary.com/S...=RoS_cg&page=1

      I'm generally ok with the basics, but this is annoying me as it's a great resource, if only I can get the files into my project.

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        #4
        You will need to either copy/paste the wall from the NBS file to your project or use transfer project standards to get it in. You could also just create a wall in your project with the values required.

        https://knowledge.autodesk.com/suppo...1F3C2-htm.html
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          #5
          Originally posted by cellophane View Post
          You will need to either copy/paste the wall from the NBS file to your project or use transfer project standards to get it in. You could also just create a wall in your project with the values required.

          https://knowledge.autodesk.com/suppo...1F3C2-htm.html
          The problem with recreating it is that there is a ton of extra thermal/structural strength info in the downloaded file and I can't see how to add anything other than the basic info into a new file.
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            #6
            Holy crap. Look at all that garbage in that Wall Type.
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              #7
              Well, I'm assuming a lot of that info plugs into other elements of BIM for calculating thermal values, costings etc, not just for the graphical model, and I want that info in the system.

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                #8
                Some of those NBS BIM components are quite decent, but some of them are OK. Yes, you will have to copy/paste that wall into your project, just for the sake of bringing that wall type in (System families like walls, floors, roofs, don't load like families).
                Then, whenever you create your wall from face (from the mass you created), you can select that specific Sip panel, or change it afterwards in case you forgot to do it before hand.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
                  Holy crap. Look at all that garbage in that Wall Type.
                  There are a lot of parameters there but they don't clog up the model. The reason that they are needed is that they transcend the model to the project's specifications.

                  The NBS Create system is probably the most extensive country-wide BIM to Specifications ecosystem in the world. It has been set up by the RIBA through RIBA Enterprises Ltd. With the NBS Create software it is a direct route of BIM [with NBS Revit Add-in] Model to Specification with the following workflow:

                  Revit Model --> NBS Revit Add-in --> NBS Create software --> Outline specifications --> Additional editing by Specifications writer to arrive at complete spcifications.

                  NBS Create is the equivalent of the US CSI system except that the NBS uses Uniclass and CSI uses Omniclass [there was a big debate about why NBS went with Uniclass, including the fact that NBS would have NO influence on the US committees that write the Omniclass tables.

                  Many of the UK's manufacturers are now creating their Revit content using the NBS system and making them available on the NBS National BIM Library to be able to plug directly into the specs outputted; further widening the ecosystem.

                  While working at my last firm, we used NBS Create, we took the training courses and also then did a trial implementation of NBS Create with Revit; the specifications writer was quite impressed that he would get an outline specification directly out of the Revit model as soon as the model was at the starting block.

                  As part of that team that was trained, I too was quite impressed with the direct BIM to specs workflow and the further integration and coordination of our production workflow. Sure beat the Q.S. / Spec Writer visually going through the drawings and preparing what they thought were the specs only for us to correct them; and also that we could do this from the get-go, giving the spec writer additional time to do their work.

                  Earlier, at the same firm, I worked with the firm's CSI spec writing experts based out of TX and VA, USA, [on a CSI-spec'ed project] but though the firm has been a leader in implementing Revit, unfortunately there was no direct connection between the model and the CSI specs that were created.

                  The NBS BIM --> Specs workflow was a by-product of the UK Government's move to mandate BIM Level 2 by April 2016; almost merits a thread on it's own
                  Last edited by kamranmirza; June 14, 2017, 03:52 PM.
                  Kamran Mirza
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                    #10
                    Oh I know what it's for. But a lot of that data is redundant as it's stored elsewhere in the objects. Which is a shame. I don't like that setup at all. Glad I don't have to use it.

                    Sent from my Phablet. Please excuse typos... and bad ideas.

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