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**cerb0z** · February 22, 2017, 12:40 PM

Usual norm is to support 3 years down, i.e. it's R2017 now, so offices could also use R2016 and R2015.

**shyock** · February 22, 2017, 08:56 PM

And what about the prices? Would you pay for a familiy or would you make your team model it?

I just upload some examples:
https://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevi...cfm/ID/1126326
https://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevi...cfm/ID/1126474
https://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevi...cfm/ID/1126478

**Dave Jones** · February 22, 2017, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by shyock View Post

And what about the prices? Would you pay for a familiy or would you make your team model it?

I just upload some examples:

I'm a self employed Revit user and NEVER use families from anywhere but those that are made by me. I've downloaded families from various sources to reverse engineer them but never use them in their original form and rarely use them in any form whatsoever. And, I would NEVER pay money for a family. There's nothing that you can make that I can't make. I think that trying to sell families is a long road to hardship. Everyone wants something different, everyone has different ideas about what's good and what's not. Tough way to make a living. Just my free $0.02 USD

**shyock** · February 23, 2017, 06:02 AM

Of course you can do any family I can, but as always time is the key. Lets supose the next case, you need to model 3D this in revit (cannot import it in dwg from 3D max or sketchup):

You have seen that someone has already made it and is selling this exactly 3D model, but it has a price of 5$ for example.

How many hours will you be working only to get the 3D modelling? How much does you hour of work costs?

Would you buy?

The thing is that if I sell maybe 10 units of this modellings, It means that I can sell them 10 times lower price than costs me to create them (for an example)

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**elton williams** · February 23, 2017, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by shyock View Post

Of course you can do any family I can, but as always time is the key. Lets supose the next case, you need to model 3D this in revit (cannot import it in dwg from 3D max or sketchup):

You have seen that someone has already made it and is selling this exactly 3D model, but it has a price of 5$ for example.

How many hours will you be working only to get the 3D modelling? How much does you hour of work costs?

Would you buy?

The thing is that if I sell maybe 10 units of this modellings, It means that I can sell them 10 times lower price than costs me to create them (for an example)

very pretty but I'm with Dave on this one, I could do that myself but I wouldn't as Revit would chuck a fit with such detailed geometry.

i do wish you good luck though if you can find a Revit market for this type of thing, always impressed to see someone having a go.

**cellersick** · February 23, 2017, 05:13 PM

For me, I have to include the cost to integrate the family into my plans, schedules, filters, etc. That can be a separate battle that has nothing to do with geometry. It's not just about the cost of modeling and materials time, and that's what prevents me from rushing out to download every manufacturer's .rfa - I have a model (read: project delivery system) to protect.

**paidpal** · February 24, 2017, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Dave Jones View Post

I'm a self employed Revit user and NEVER use families from anywhere but those that are made by me

And the reason is...?

**jmk** · February 24, 2017, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by shyock View Post

Of course you can do any family I can, but as always time is the key. Lets supose the next case, you need to model 3D this in revit (cannot import it in dwg from 3D max or sketchup):

You have seen that someone has already made it and is selling this exactly 3D model, but it has a price of 5$ for example.

How many hours will you be working only to get the 3D modelling? How much does you hour of work costs?

Would you buy?

The thing is that if I sell maybe 10 units of this modellings, It means that I can sell them 10 times lower price than costs me to create them (for an example)

I'd look at it and think "ooh, a fun challenge!" I would be highly unlikely to buy it. Yes, it would take me time to build, but in all likelihood I don't need (or want) something this detailed. It would be cool to have for a rendering, but even then the chances of the client wanting that exact design, from that exact manufacturer, is slim. Your models won't meet my desire for parameters, flexibility, generic representation, and naming (and if they do they won't meet the next persons!) I'm much more likely to make a generic box and tag it with "Play structure" and be done with it, unless I'm doing a series of projects that need it represented.

Perhaps for people tasked only with making renderings from Revit it would be justifiable.

**billiam** · February 24, 2017, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by jmk View Post

Perhaps for people tasked only with making renderings from Revit it would be justifiable.

even then, I would rather use Photoshop.. We do a lot of renderings and never actually render complex entourage such as this. Reasons being they are hard to model and eat up rendering time. It's easy enough just to drop in a 2D image, match the lighting and create shadows during post processing

However, OP - We would find more use in things like lighting fixtures, appliances. Most things we can find on the manufacturer's website but a few we can't.

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