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    Hey guys!

    A quick question :
    Are you guys using Revit provided models from manufacturers ?
    If so, what do you use them for ? ( for example, as example, or to render, to see if they fit , ... )

    Would help me a lot by answering this one!

    Thanks in advance,
    Alexandre

    #2
    Many manufacturers and industry groups provide models. Yes, I use them, but not always.

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      #3
      Not if I can help it.

      Which basically means never.

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        #4
        Practically never. The one time recently i recommended to a client that we use (start with) the manufacturers library to save time and money, it ended up costing us a lot of time, and a lot of money. Dont bother.
        Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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          #5
          I avoid it whenever possible, but if they are decent models will occasionally use lights or specific equipment if I don't have an alternative or time to make one. Usually I need a more general item that is flexible to adapt to the current basis of design.

          I will download and look at specific families to acquire dimensions/relationships that are not documented elsewhere when building a family.

          Manufacturer models seem to always have something wrong with them (such as extra lineweights, 2d representation, cad imports...), and/or are too specific for my needs.
          Julie Kidder
          Architect + BIM Director
          Hartman + Majewski Design Group

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            #6
            If I find a good quality one, definitely yes. More often than not they are unfortunately very badly made

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              #7
              The key here is to know how to review the content, PRIOR, to loading it in your project. And what type of content is it. furniture or other items that stand alone, ie don't host or need to play well with others are easier to re-use from mfrs'. But things like doors, curtain walls, lights, etc. that are hosted will most likely cause you pain unless you review them carefully and make sure they match your companies standards for family construction.
              Scott D. Brown, AIA | Senior Project Manager | Beck Group

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                #8
                I only use manufacturer content if I want a nicely modelled 3D object, otherwise just the overall size and the information contained in the family is more important.

                Make an empty template family, with all the standard functionality, parameters, naming conventions etc. etc. that you want, then put any families from external sources inside this template. Then you can use the 3D model in your project and have everything else work predictably.
                "One must imagine Sisyphus happy." Albert Camus - "The innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may ​do well under the new." Nicolo Machiavelli -"Things that are too complex are not useful, Things that are useful are simple." Mikhail Kalashnikov

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                  #9
                  Thx for the answers guys!

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                    #10
                    Depends on their use. If its for rendering purposes and you just need some placeholders in there temporarily, I typically go for the realistically modeled ones. C'mon guys, manufacturer's have gotten better over the years, but yes, I can't remember the last time I downloaded one from their sites because I end up with a "CAD-add" instead of a natively modeled element. I think that's beat a lot of the first comers to cringe when they think of downloading from a manufacturer's site. The most recent one I got was from Herman Miller and it was nicely done, native in Revit, not a huge file, rendered incredibly well. It IS possible to get the best of both worlds.
                    RB Cameron, AIA, LEED AP, EDAC, NCARB
                    Architect - Parametric Designer - Visualization Instructor
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