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    RST Q2: Extract a rebar detail from a live section?

    The same structural guy asked me:You have a nice 3d rebar in a concrete column.
    You make a section. Can you extract with a few cliks the sape of some elements from the rebar in order to have them taged and dimensioned separatly?
    see picture.

    Or you have to makedetail families for every type of sape and fill the paramemeters to have the same proportion from the live section?
    More, can you have quantity of how many identical rebar parts you have in a given element?
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    #2
    If you are using 3D Rebar, are you not using it throughout the entire project?

    If you are not using 3D Rebar, or don’t want to use it for every column, You would be best to have detail components for detailing. You could make them too look similar to 3D Rebar making it unidentifiable if you want to mix the use of the two

    The only other quick and nasty workflow to take 3D rebar and use it in a 2D way is to use the Revit Extension - Freeze Drawing, which just creates a DWG import of the current view, which you could copy to other views.
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      #3
      This is precisely one of the reason for assembly views. You can quanify, detail, section, annotate, dimension, etc concrete and rebar using assembly views.
      Scott D Davis
      Sr. AEC Technical Specialist
      Autodesk, Inc.
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        #4
        ok. But the 3d rebar viewed from a section can be dimmensioned and taged at his parts level? I`m thinking if it is possible to make a new view with a duplicated 3D rebar,isolate only the part elemnt that i want it adnotated? When you make a part list of a 3D rebar in a assembly view you realy get the number of simmilar parts that make a 3D rebar?
        I mean I want to know if RST can give you in any way the info of not just how long and what diameters you have in a 3D rebar fo a column but how many similar pieces of metal(parts?) a worker should make on the field, and if it possible to detail every piece separately as easy as possible. I need to explain if there is a way to provide this info from RST
        Last edited by gaby424; July 14, 2011, 07:22 AM.

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          #5
          I think you're looking for shop drawings. that can be done, but it's a manual process, and at this time IMHO it's not proficient. you may need additionnal softs to detail and document shapes of rebars. This has been said many times. RST is still provided with Autocad Structural Detailing, to detail...... I would LOVE to have shop drawings made in RST. Structural offices I know in Europe only use RST for formworks and analysis, not for rebars. Too bad, cause the rebar tools are pretty handy. Maybe in the future, detailing in RST will be proficient....I have some hope.
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            #6
            ok. understood. The 3D rebar when is it scheduled what info you receive? It contain number of parts? Metal volumes? Metal diameters?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Scott D Davis View Post
              This is precisely one of the reason for assembly views. You can quanify, detail, section, annotate, dimension, etc concrete and rebar using assembly views.
              When you schedule rebar in assembly, "Shape" is not a scheduleable parameter...that is incredibly useful information to us and our clients. Why can shape not be scheduled?

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                #8
                Originally posted by gdoherty0102 View Post
                When you schedule rebar in assembly, "Shape" is not a scheduleable parameter...that is incredibly useful information to us and our clients. Why can shape not be scheduled?
                Can you tell me what parameters are available for schedule?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gaby424 View Post
                  Can you tell me what parameters are available for schedule?
                  When I first tested it out the only parameter that we used before that we were not able to schedule in an assembly was the Shape. So bar size, estimated total volume, all of the bend dimensions (A, B, C, etc), Comments...most of our other parameters are custom so will schedule with the assembly...just not the shape.

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                    #10
                    [QUOTE=gaby424;23169]The same structural guy asked me:You have a nice 3d rebar in a concrete column.
                    You make a section. Can you extract with a few cliks the sape of some elements from the rebar in order to have them taged and dimensioned separatly?
                    see picture.

                    Or you have to makedetail families for every type of sape and fill the paramemeters to have the same proportion from the live section?
                    More, can you have quantity of how many identical rebar parts you have in a given element
                    QUOTE]

                    What do you consider a few click? I can create the detail by duplicating the section, isolating the bar, adding dimensions and then placing both onto a sheet.
                    Erik Snell, P.E.
                    Factory Worker (Principal User Experience Designer)
                    I am an Autodesk employee and the opinions or commentary I provide are my own and not necessarily that of Autodesk, Inc.

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